Hello,

Here is a hand I have seen at a local casino and I was wondering what the correct plays were.

Blinds 1/2$..

Stacks:
BB(450$)
SB (150$)
BTN (450$)
CO (250$)
MP2 (450$)
MP1 (150$)
UTG (250$)

Reads:
BTN: 7 hands => Hyper aggro player - 100% 3bet pf, 2/3 pot every street. Been called once and shown bluff. All dealers seem to know him.
CO: 2 hands =>Unknown
MP2: 40+ hands =>Good thinking player for live NL200. Not out of line so far
MP1: 40+ hands => Total maniac
UTG: 5 hands => New kid, seems ok player.


UTG raises to 4$ (Stattle)

Preflop: UTG strattles to 4$
MP1 calls 4$, MP2 raises to 35$, CO shoves to 250$, BTN instashoves to 450$, SB/BB fold. UTG?

Question 1: UTG looks at cards and has QQ? Shove or fold?
Question 2: MP2 has KK? Shove/fold?

Both players should snap call in a game like this. Not even close.

+1

I am drooling over this game

This is why I bring 5 buyins

Quite curious to know the range of holdings you have for CO and BTN here...

I fold QQ, shove KK

wow I misread this thread hero has only seen 7 hands with BTN so he could just be getting cards

2nd player is unknown

If I was UTG I could get away from QQ with the action going bet, 3, Jam
We don't have enough hands to change our play

Never folding KK pre with 100 BB

Side note: How bad must a player be in order to motivate a 9x isolation raise against him?

Neither straddle nor MP2 should consider any option besides piling it in here.

Eek, I just noticed a mixed up in the reads. BTN and MP2 have been mixed up.

Should read as follow:

Fairly easy call with qq. I'd probably Hollywood to draw in super agro guy if possible.

I'd say the smarter players instashove is a sign of relative weakness. He just wants to play vs one hand for a decion free pot with dead money. Could easily have AK. But he could, of course, be a vagina and have the same thought process with AA.

It seems like more than one person should have an ace. That's good.

Crazy loose players behind us could easily call hoping to drag a monster pot with 79s

Worst case ontario: Even if everyone else folds and we are against aa and kk we win 15% of the time.

+1 same

There is already $540 in the pot. The game is crazy and the later raisers should be relatively wide. It is $246 to call. 2 total monkeys have already put money in, one on a big raise, and they will act after you.

Do not fold pocket queens.

co is unknown and shoved 250 over a 35 bet. In my games it's lol that guy has AA.

When I said this I thought BU was the 7/7 3-bettor maniac. CO's range is probably kind of narrow, but it's difficult to range a maniac, we just know it's wide and that pads our odds quite a bit. With the update in post 8 I'd probably reluctantly fold QQ. I'm still sigh-calling KK. It is a huge, huge difference that BU is not actually a maniac.

This is extremely unlikely. It's almost sure that a player who 3-bets 7/7 hands is a raise-button clicking maniac. Bayes Theorem could be used to get a good estimate of the true probability.

We aren't worried about the button....we are worried about the guy that shoved 250 into 35

In my game it's AA far to often

Unless I get a live read I'm folding QQ and calling KK

Very unusual game. Why would MP2 raise a $4 straddle to $35 at 1/2 NL?