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03-23-2018 , 01:36 AM
My first post. Question about a hand i played earlier today . 1-2 at Borgata. Iam in the BB ($300 ef). 2 limps and the cutoff raises to $10 ($500ef) SB calls . I have 4-5s and call. Both limpers call. 5 way. $50 in pot. Flop is 3h-Jc-2h. Checks to the raiser who bets $25. SB flds, I call. Others fold. $100 in pot HU to the turn ..Ac..... Board 3-J-2-A. I make my straight n check to him, he checks back. River= 3. I check. He bets 35. He starts hollywooding.trying to give off weak expressions. Have weird read he boated up. Villian is tight tight older man. So i just min raise to 70. Plan was to bet fold. So he jams putting me all in. And i fold. What you guys think??
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03-23-2018 , 01:45 AM
You shoulda bet turn. Shouldn't of reraised river If you was afraid to call another.. why didn't you just take it to showdown.. I'm completely lost at your reasoning, i don't think you knew why you was raising.

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03-23-2018 , 02:03 AM
I Didnt wana donk lead into him on the turn. That ace should hit him way more than my range. My plan was to check raise the turn, but he checked so i just did it on the river. I only min raised so if he jammed i could get away from it. Remember i raised when the third 3 came out, repping minimum 3 threes. And he still popped it.He had to have filled up. Either AA JJ or 22. Guy was so tight, in his 70s, mainly playing extremely nitty. Only primium cards. A $200 re-raise bluff is so far outa his league. Would never happen. Thanks for your imput Look forward to posting more
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03-23-2018 , 02:24 AM
Why reraised at all? Why not just call it and showdown..

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03-23-2018 , 02:35 AM
Don't check-minraise small river bets.
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03-23-2018 , 05:29 AM
I don't mind checking turn for what you already discussed, that the A is better for his range than yours and it's a good card for him to barrel. That said, it's very V dependent and many Vs are going to check-back PPs and whatever hands they may hold that gave showdown value. I'll donk into tighter opponents on this turn, and check to opponents that are more likely to barrel. I guess if he's an older tight gentleman, a donk lead may have been better. Either is fine to me though.

Against a tight 70yo man who you felt was giving off strong false tells and hollywooding, I flat river. We have no live reads in a thread, but you do at the table. If you believe you have a strong read, especially against an older opponent, it's okay to play it safe and go with your read. I think against this specific type of V, I'm only raising river if I intend to call it off when facing a river 3!. As played I'd shrug fold almost solely based on the description of V, but then I would have just flatted river to begin with.
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03-23-2018 , 10:11 AM
Lead turn for sure. Hand sin't strong enough to slow play.

Just call river.
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03-23-2018 , 10:40 AM
Am I the only who thinks OP should have folded PF?




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03-23-2018 , 10:46 AM
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Am I the only who thinks OP should have folded PF?




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Yes

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03-23-2018 , 10:53 AM
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Am I the only who thinks OP should have folded PF?




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I think that's legitimate. I probably end up calling pre, because if pot odds, but I find playing SCs OOP really tough.
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03-23-2018 , 11:28 AM
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I think that's legitimate. I probably end up calling pre, because if pot odds, but I find playing SCs OOP really tough.

Granted there is no detail on how table dynamics were going, but generally I’d fold here. Might get someone limp/raise and you end folding anyways. This is a hand if I’d play, I end losing more money then I should. It’s not a hand I like to play with a bunch of limpers.




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03-23-2018 , 11:55 AM
Jam river. As played call it off. He will do this with AJ, AK sometimes. His play reps AA only really. Cannot see JJ or A3 checking the turn.

Also lead turn. KK, QQ, KJ will call a bet but not bet themselves.
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03-23-2018 , 12:30 PM
I play through the turn the exact same. When it checks through I’m going to lead the river, and call a raise.

I’m just not that worried about a boat here.

Unlikely he checks JJ, AA or A3 on that turn. A guy as tight as you claim isn’t going to lead the flop with a A3. He isn’t going to slow down on the turn with JJ after an ace comes, and checking after turning a set of aces is deceptive enough that its tough to expect most 1-2 or 1-3 nits to do it.
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