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08-14-2014 , 05:11 AM
Hi,

This may be a stupid question but just need reassurance:

Hero: 575 button (LAG) Q, 9 DD
Villain: 224 UTG (nitty TAG)
Villain 2: 600 (Super LAG)

Villain 1 raises to 12
Villain 2 calls
Hero calls

FLOP: 10d, Kh, 8d

Villain 1 bets 15
Villain 2 folds
Hero raises to 45
Villian shoves 199

Hero?

My read is that he has A,K. He's never raising k,10 UTG and no pair two pair combo makes sense. Obvs set of 10s or Ks possible too.

Thanks.
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08-14-2014 , 05:20 AM
So if you put him on that range why would you raise?
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08-14-2014 , 05:31 AM
I semi-bluffed because I have 12 outs and he's checking a lot of bricks which I plan on checking back to see a river. (assuming he only flats)

Honestly, I don't love my flop raise at all.
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08-14-2014 , 05:45 AM
This is not deep stacked. You have 12 clean outs........the call is trivial.
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08-14-2014 , 05:47 AM
thanks

I snap called. Just needed to double check
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08-14-2014 , 05:59 AM
Don't like ur call pf. U called him a super nit, he raises UTG and u call with a massive RIO hand. Either raise or fold pf. Mostly fold.

As played u have to gii getting 3:1 when u r at worst a 2:1 dog - unless he has AKdd


EDIT: my bad u r getting 2:1. I still call here tho after our flop raise, I don't think a fold would be bad tho either
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08-14-2014 , 06:18 AM
I'm with you, I wouldn't mind having Q9 otb against a nit open raising UTG with almost certainly a big pp or ak. Actually making a hand and coolering this guy would be the backup plan. I would float pretty much any flop that had the potential to turn scary, and then bomb the scare card.

Here's your problem. That's not how you played it here.

Don't make it easy for this guy to tell when you're bluffing.

What is the narrative?
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08-14-2014 , 08:02 AM
How often was this villain cbetting? If you have any fold equity, I like the flop raise. If not, just call the good price he gave you.
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08-14-2014 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AbqDave
I'm with you, I wouldn't mind having Q9 otb against a nit open raising UTG with almost certainly a big pp or ak. Actually making a hand and coolering this guy would be the backup plan. I would float pretty much any flop that had the potential to turn scary, and then bomb the scare card.

Here's your problem. That's not how you played it here.

Don't make it easy for this guy to tell when you're bluffing.

What is the narrative?
Agree with this, villain is a smart player who I have played with previously, he knows my raising range is waited more heavily to drawing hands like FD+SD etc. I think that's why he made the logical shove.

Unfortunately he had a set of 10s taking away some of my outs. I called as it cost 154 to win 292 and I thought I was good roughly 40% of the time so I think it's the correct call.

As played i think it made more sense to flat the flop given we were heads up (multi way i like my flop raise). That means I can raise scary turns (which was a Qs in this hand so would haave been perfect to rep A,Jdd).

Was a case of raising the wrong villain given his range is very strong UTG and leading out on the flop.
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08-14-2014 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie4444
Agree with this, villain is a smart player who I have played with previously, he knows my raising range is waited more heavily to drawing hands like FD+SD etc. I think that's why he made the logical shove.

Unfortunately he had a set of 10s taking away some of my outs. I called as it cost 154 to win 292 and I thought I was good roughly 40% of the time so I think it's the correct call.

As played i think it made more sense to flat the flop given we were heads up (multi way i like my flop raise). That means I can raise scary turns (which was a Qs in this hand so would haave been perfect to rep A,Jdd).

Was a case of raising the wrong villain given his range is very strong UTG and leading out on the flop.
Raising the flop multiway is even worse IMO
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