Hero (450): Very aggressive young player. Is capable of doing bluffs at the right time. I had dropped down the aggression a little bit in this table because people has seen me do some aggressive plays in the past. Villain is on my left but doesn't know me. First time playing with him. He doesn't know my image
Villain(550): Young player. The definition of a rock. Folds almost every hand pre. Only enters with really premium hands. Had only seen him 3bet 1 time in the whole session and he had an overpair there. Had only been c-betting very sure hands. Very easy to bluff him if he doesn't connect

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Blinds 1-2.
Folded to hero in the cut off who raises to 99 and raises to 10 (standard raise in this room)
Villain on the button 3bets to 32

He is so ***** tight that I put him on an overpair like AA, KK, QQ or maybe JJ so I decide to call to see a flop and set mine.

Flop(67):
875

Hero checks. Villain c-bets 36. I decide that even though he might have an overpair there, that flop impacts very much my range. Plus I have a pair and a gutshot in that flop. I decide to turn my hand into a semibluff and I check raise to 75. If I get called I'll keep barreling the turn if a scare card comes or any card that completes my hand.

Villain thinks for a while and raises to 165. At this point I'm pretty sure he has an overpair there and is trying to get information and trying to make my flush/straight draw be more expensive. I decide that if I shove here, villain probably can put me on 2 pair, set or a really strong hand. Since he is a very tight player there is a lot of chance that he can fold his hand. So I think for a while and decide to go all in for 450.

Thoughts on the hand? Imagine you didn't know my hand and you had an overpair there. (I'll say what happened later after I read some feedback)

Decision to xr and sizing are equally terrible. Kudos if he folded to your 3bet which looks super strong but he’s telling you he likes his overpair and you’re in terrible shape when called.

Just call the flop if a will get you a free river. Fold if he’s gonna bomb turn regardless of the card. Rocks that only play overpairs tend to get married to them.

You have so many semi-bluffs on this board, that even if I didn't know your image, I'd have to sigh/call.

Preflop isn’t so great. We’re oop with a marginal hand. If aggressive Vs are in the blinds, i often limp 99 and let them raise so i can play the hand in position in a raised pot. I’m folding 99 oop here to re-raise to this V as described at this IO.

The x r here otf is ambitious. V has most of the NFDs here and dominant overpairs. Hero is capped to sets and combos. When he raises, he’s telling you his minimum hand is AcKc.

Jamming is definitely better than calling. But I’d prefer to just call the flop and try to barrel any brick undercard turn. AP: your jam gives him 9-5 on his call and really just targets his TT and NFDs for a fold. This is perhaps 6 plausible combos versus the 12 Aa-Qq he’d reraise with. It’s also not impossible that he has 88 or JJ. I don’t like to semibluff Jam giving 9-5 unless I think V has at least 50pct combos he can lay down.

You’re getting >21x implied. Folding to the 3b is ******ed as is limping pre.

Really good analysis. I think limping pre with 99 is way to tight, i only limp with pairs that are 77 ore below. Why not call pre with 99 to set mine? For me it's a good idea. Anyway, jamming looked at a great idea at the time, but you are right with the odds, it is harder for him to lay it down with so many draws

This.

Villain announced preflop that he had a big overpair. He announced with his 3-bet that he'll take the money or take the bad beat story, but he won't be folding.

I would've check-called the flop, then bet out at a turn scare card.

As played, either fold to the reraise here or call/eval turn. The call/eval line is only profitable if you have confidence you can take advantage of ghost outs.

Cmon pre is a snap call always this deep, 100 bigs or lower sure folding is ok but not this deep vs a face up range

Wtf are you doing otf? An extremely “***** tight” guy 3b you pre and bets a flop thats horrible for his range and you want to raise, and then jam over his reraise? Worst of all you have a very “young aggressive” image. Flop just seems like button clicking spew.

Your flop min raise size makes no sense either, he’s folding none of his range vs that sizing and you’re bloating the pot with a hand that’s way behind his range, i.e. lighting money on fire.

Just call flop

Im going to guess he miraculously folded, and you think the play was great or you got sigh called off & sucked out. Or possibly flipped with AQss/AKss

Admittedly I haven't experienced/observed this type of spot much, but I really doubt a "rock" player that 3-bets the flop with a marked overpair has an intention of folding it. If they had a mind for laying a hand like that down, they likely aren't 3-betting it on the flop.

Your flop raise doesn't make much sense. Villain is never folding to this size. You're setting up a very awkward stack size to barrel off with ($220 in the pot, $350 left to bet). We reopen the action. I would much rather prefer a flat call on the flop. We leave ourself $380 to bet in a pot of $140, which can let us apply heavy pressure on turn cards that either hit us or are dangerous for our opponent (9, 6 hit us; 4 or club lets us apply pressure).

I think it's best to save our semibluffs for higher equity hands that are more likely to make the best hand on scare cards, such as suited connectors that made pair + SD (98s, 86s, 76s, 65s), or pair + FD hands. Doing it with 99 somewhat blunts our bluffing ability on different runouts, and somewhat validates his likely inability to fold overpairs.

Expecting an unknown V to fold a super premium here is incredibly optimistic. Regardless of outcome, there's a lot of button clicking going on here.

So, let me see if I understand your logic...

Preflop you call to setmine because you think he will pay you off because he can't fold an OP

Postflop you raise because you think he will fold his OP.

You can't have it both ways - he either is a person that can't let go of OPs or he is a person who gets scared with OPs facing aggression and and folds them. If he's the latter you can't really call preflop because you don't have the implied odds to setmine and if he's the former you can't make that raise because it will never work.

Another thing to understand is that a "rock" or nit is not likely to be a thinking player. They're more likely to be "level 0" players, thinking only about their specific holding, the board, & the betting action. I started poker as a pretty nonthinking nitty player myself. So trying to "represent" a hand or playing aggressively on a board that "favors your range" isn't likely to register with them, because you're thinking too many levels above where they're at. You're thinking at level 2 or 3, which means nothing when they're at level 0.

As Jasaka pointed out, he's either a nitty player that can't lay down an overpair, so you set mine based on that fact. Or, he's a nitty player that can find a fold at some point, so your bluff will work. But those two things can't be true at the same time. There's obviously a bit of nuance/wiggle room, but the end point is the same for me: What is your plan for the hand? Having a plan & following it is important, even if the plan can't necessarily be 100% set in stone.

Fancy play syndrome. On a more general level, it’s best to avoid this kind of tomfoolery in a $1/2 game. You just end up value owning yourself against ABC players who are incapable of interpreting the information you are tying to represent.

For the commentaries in the forum you guys are probably right. Levelled myself to a semibluff that is hard to succeed. Anyways this is what he had

If he's 3-betting AQs he seems more TAG than a "rock."

Flop raise is pretty bad in any case.

99. Seeing a flop, okay. Marriage?