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Originally Posted by krilleater
No way is this a standard fold pre. Almost no good player is folding JTs in this situation. Upswing has it as a call even against a UTG open.
Also the "J high" nonsense is just trolling. Do you also advocate folding AK here since it's just "A high?" It's not like I'm playing J3s from the SB.
Maybe you don't play JTs here, but *calling* is the standard play not the other way around.
Lulz. This is the beauty of live poker and why it will never die. We got regs who will “defend” their SB vs a nit iso raise from UTG. Many good players fold JTs here; you don’t represent all good regs. Doug Polk would definitely not advocate flatting JTs here, he would say to 3b or fold here for sure. And he sure as hell wouldnt advocate flatting vs a nit iso raise, 90bb deep effective. None of the writers would unless they’re terrible. In fact, I’m 100% sure most of the writers advocate 3b or folding most hands from the SB.
J10s and AK arent even the same thing, you know that. AK is a premium and is a top 5% hand and is a good money maker (assuming you play it properly), J10s isnt. Simple as that. If you’re comparing J10s and AK like they’re the same thing, then i dont know what to tell you. It’s a pretty ******ed analogy.
Lots of regs, even winning regs, can make bad plays (ie defending or flattng too wide). It doesnt make it less of a leak. Lots of good players overcbet flops (eg make very poor cbet selections with hands that are multiway). Does that make it “standard” or even good? No it doesn’t.
Of course, I won’t change your mind and you’ll keep flatting J10s here. I don’t particularly care since you already have your mind set on that it’s “standard.”
The fact that you have to even post this hand for a critique when it’s clear as day what to do postflop says something, no? Maybe you wont profit as much calling here as a “standard” as you thought you would.
Last edited by Minatorr; 01-19-2019 at 12:38 AM.