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02-20-2018 , 11:35 PM
1/2 at local card room.

Button ($350)- Hero has a tight image, but not positive if main villain woyld notice.

Small blind($200)- typical calls too much, too loose but won't play too crazy

Mid position($200)- middle aged white guy running bad, down a buy in. Doesn't seem tilty. Seems to play somewhat solid, haven't seen anything out of line. Haven't sern him put in a big raise yet.

Mid position raises to $7. Hero calls on button with A6. Both blinds call. Pot $28 minus rake.

Flop 234. Small blind leads $15, could be any pair/draw combo. He has bet out quite a bit. Big blind folds and mid position raises to $80, leaving $115 behind.

Quite likely overpairs make up most of his range, some sets, smaller flush draws. We are in great shape against those hands. I dont remember any other raises to see if we can make something of his small raise size.

Hero feels like he may have some fold equity and will always be in reasonable shape and shoves. Comments?
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02-20-2018 , 11:46 PM
You probably have zero FE. Almost no MAWG is raising with worse than 2p there, even if tilty.
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02-20-2018 , 11:48 PM
For sure the $115 stack is calling having just sent $80 into the pot.

Do we think the small blind will call if we just flat?

If so, we want more action with our hand.

It is reasonable to expect that the $115 is going in on the turn unless a club comes.

If we think the $15 bettor will simply fold then we might get paid more reliably if we hit when we shove now instead of later. Unless, of course, HE has a flush draw, then shoving is surely best.

Combined with a non-zero fold equity, without watching the $15 better actually stacking up the calling chips, a shove seems better than just calling.
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02-21-2018 , 12:04 AM
It comes down to how much fold equity you think you have. When a standard LS player puts in almost half his stack with a raise, I wouldn't expect to be able to force many folds from him.

Because we have the nut draw and I wouldn't think we have much FE, I'd flat and give invite the SB to continue, which would give us a better price on our draw. We have to hit to make the best hand, we know we'll have the best hand when we do hit, and I wouldn't expect a shove to get through very often. In this scenario I want to get as much money in from other players as I can, and here that means flatting and trying to bring the SB along.
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02-21-2018 , 01:38 AM
lol. negative fold equity. also don't like a shove becuase we want the small blind to come along. flat all day.
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02-21-2018 , 06:44 AM
Yeah I would just flat there. No reason to shove here.
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02-21-2018 , 11:08 AM
So we actually think we will get paid off if we flat $80 and a club hits? That seems like a stretch tbh. Our flat is going to look UBER strong to anyone who isn't a drooler so I don't think we make enough afterwards to consider that play (unless we have a great read on SB that he is counting out chips to call or something like that).

In game, I rip.
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02-21-2018 , 03:09 PM
At these stack sizes I'm jamming here 90% of the time, unless I have very specific reads on the villains.
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02-21-2018 , 03:29 PM
Meh, it looks pretty close between a fold, shove and a call.

We don't have fold equity and it looks like we dont have either the express odds or the implied odds to call hoping to hit a club or one of three non-club fives.

It kind of sux to call 80 to win 203 more going into the turn (pot odds of 28.3%) knowing that we only hit a club or a five 25.5% of the time. If any ace is also good, our express odds going into the turn are 29.8%.

If we view his raise as a virtual shove (and assume that sb is folding) then our pot odds are 195/433 =45%. With 2 cards to come and 12-15 outs, we likely have 45-54% equity.

If effective stacks were 600 to start the hand, I like a call here.
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02-22-2018 , 04:12 PM
Results- Big blind folded. Main villain tanked (good) but then talked about it being a cooler (bad). He ended up calling with 2/4 suited, flopped top and botton. I guess his opening range was quite wider than I thought. Big blind said he folded 3/4 for top two (would have called $80). Turn is a 3 and river bricks and villain wins with a pair of 4's. just calling on the flop would have saved me $115
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02-22-2018 , 04:57 PM
With these stack sizes I think a shove does have merit. If you had called and brick the turn, you are left with such a low SPR that you are just left in a gross spot with great pot odds and a decent amount of equity. I sort of like raising pre with the A6s instead of giving the blinds an amazing price, but can't really complain how you played the hand. It's just one of those decisions that had to be made due to stack sizes.
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