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Check raise bluff turn after spotting weakness? Check raise bluff turn after spotting weakness?

06-30-2021 , 12:35 PM
Hero (1320): LAG image. Have a lot of history with both players. Have been seen doing some aggressive moves in the past. Winning player in the room
V1 (3500): By far the best player in the room. Professional poker player. Can exploit weakness in everyone. Always knows what to do on every spot. Im usually really careful with him since
V2(1800): Inexperienced aggressive player. A couple of months ago he was extremely tight passive, but last months he has been running very good in the game and his confidence went to the top. Now he is stealing pots, buying in for the max, making hero calls in some spots and willing to challenge the best players in the room. He is over aggressive some times

OTH:
Blinds (5-5)

V1 raises to 25 (standard raise) UTG+1, V2 calls the button, I have AQ and decide to 3bet to 125 from the BB. V1 calls and v2 call

Flop (380): T42

Hero decides to not C-bet since V1 is more than capable to float me very light IP and take the pot off with any scare card on the turn. Hero checks, V1 checks, V2 thinks for a moment and checks.

Turn: 5

Hero checks again, V1 checks and V2 decides to bet 250

I don't think V2 is strong here. For me he can be in an attempt to steal the pot with any 2 cards, he can have a medium pocket pair that checked flop for precaution, or he might have 1 pair. I don't think he has Tx or a flush draw since he would have bet the flop. Set or 2 pair is in his range, but my read is he doesn't have it now.

I decided to go all in for 1.1k

Why did I move in?

It is possible that in my range I could have trapped with an over pair checking 2 streets since I know this 2 guys are really aggressive. Also since I know V2 has max 1 pair I have 10 outs that can save me in the river.

Am I representing an overpair trying to trap good enough for him to fold?

V1 instant folds, V2 starts tanking for more than 2 minutes. I'll post results later

Last edited by luz4ggro; 06-30-2021 at 12:43 PM.
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06-30-2021 , 12:44 PM
Few things.

What's your history with 3bet? If it's not very often, especially in this session, then the check on the flop is pretty much signaling exactly what you had.

V1 obviously had nothing, so it's irrelevant in this spot.

Any decent player would call in this spot.

Shouldn't be this hard to spot this line as weak: 3bet pre -> check flop -> check turn.

If you are somehow balancing this line with nutted hands, you're not adding value to your bluffs but rather losing value with your nutted hands. -EV no matter how you slice it.
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06-30-2021 , 06:22 PM
I also think that your line feels very weak; but, you might be bluffing with the best hand, so even when he calls off, you might still be ahead some of the time. As played PF, when you're behind, some of the time you can out draw one pair hands. Worst case, I think you could be up against slow played pocket tens. I also agree with Tanq that this line is very hard to balance.
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06-30-2021 , 06:49 PM
A c/r bluff against a player you describe as running well AND likes to make hero calls seems like lighting money on fire.

Also, your betting line makes no sense. People very rarely three-bet from the BB without a decent pair or two big cards...the flop/turn was pretty safe, yet you checked twice. Most of the time I see this, the player has two overcards and has given up, or a small pair and is just trying to see the river. Also, if you did have an overpair and wanted to pot control, you would never ship it on the turn for $1000+.

This move will sometimes work, of course...the villain may have air, or decide not to be sticky with a small piece of the board.
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06-30-2021 , 07:10 PM
Don’t like this at all. The only hand I would potentially play this way is 55. If you want to (semi)bluff, this is not a terrible spot for a delayed c-bet with 2 overs and a wheel gutshot. May not get through a lot but is a much lower variance play, an easy bet-fold, you may get lucky and bink a river and if not, can still decide to fire again and bluff river depending on who calls and reads without risking your whole stack.
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06-30-2021 , 08:19 PM
How do you explain 55 in your 3bet range from blinds?
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06-30-2021 , 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanqueray
How do you explain 55 in your 3bet range from blinds?
You’re right I can’t. I was focused on the flop action and forgot it was a 3-bet and not just a raised pot lol.
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