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11-04-2012 , 11:29 AM

DeucesFullOfThrees

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 38

I was wondering if many players on this forum use a check-raise bluff in 1-2 NL and if so has it been very effective? Is it better to use a bluff of this nature on the flop or the turn? What would an ideal flop look like if it is used?

Thanks in advance...

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11-04-2012 , 02:13 PM

ThaNEWPr0fess0r

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,830

Check raise semi-bluff.

Actual equity + fold equty = +EV!

This is a pretty vague subject here. I mean, Of course you can check raise bluff effectively at 1/2NL. It really depends on who you are c/ring. In general, I almost never c/r exclusively as a bluff and have at least a gut shot (or some other "outs") to fall back on. In general, Villains at 1/2 don't like to bet and then fold to a raise.

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11-04-2012 , 02:23 PM

docpangloss

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 135

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Originally Posted by ThaNEWPr0fess0r

Check raise semi-bluff.

er'day

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11-04-2012 , 03:41 PM

SuqAta8

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21,876

depends on your opponents obv

if i give them credit for being decent players, then yes, i will throw out a x/r bluff every now and then because they just assume im blatantly repping a set

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11-04-2012 , 05:02 PM

Dirty313

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,486

c/r with actual equity, at least some type of draw

not complete air

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11-04-2012 , 06:44 PM

AEPpoker

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,248

in general, i almost never cr bluff with air otf.

You almost always get floated, even if V doesn't realize hes floating you. This means that to pull off the bluff, you are going to have to checkraise otf and lead ott.

If I am going to try to win the pot by cr-ing air (and there are times you can do so). I check/call flop and check/raise the turn. This is fairly expensive, but is almost always effective against some players, especially "thinking" ones./

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11-04-2012 , 06:55 PM

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Slow Pony

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 14,205

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Originally Posted by AEPpoker

You almost always get floated, even if V doesn't realize hes floating you. This means that to pull off the bluff, you are going to have to checkraise otf and lead ott.

This is 100% accurate... For some reason, I think anger/embarrassment of being check raised - almost all players call the check raise even when they figure they are beat.

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11-04-2012 , 07:02 PM

ajmachine

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 16

As others have said c/r semi bluffs work well. I like to use them specially against villains that bet even when there hand is marginal like 1010 on a j high board. Be prepared to follow up on the turn if villain doesn't show strength.

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