2/5 loose passive table. $600 effective stacks.

Hero ($600) utg raises to $20 with AcAs

UTG+1 calls, mp1 calls, co calls, button calls, sb calls, bb folds.

Flop Jd, 9d, Ts

check, check, mp1 bets 60, fold, button calls, sb folds, hero folds.

A friend sent me a text asking about this hand so sorry this is all the info i have. At first I thought check folding with Aces was atrocious but after thinking about it it doesn't seem half bad. Thoughts?

Someone had to have smacked this flop when it goes six ways. And pretty much any hand that has any piece of this board has got a ton of equity against us. There are not a ton of great turn cards for us and the only person we have position on is the sb.

Seems pretty bad to fold AA for $60 when the post is already $240. Raise more pre.

If it's a mistake, it's a small one. That's about the worst board for aces six ways you could ask for.

Lol

Literally the worst possible flop. I probably peel one but don't hate folding.

Chances are extremely good someone flopped two pair or a set, or a pair+draw which has great equity against us and is never folding, or a pair+flush draw which is also not folding, or a combo draw....hell, even 8d8x has 40% equity against us.

In order for us to comfortably bet, we have to hope that no diamond, K, Q, J, T, 9, or 8 comes. 30 cards to dodge twice? That means only 13% of board runouts are going to look good for us. Since we are OOP to most, those 87% of boards that bring in a scare card will put them in a stronger position.

Check/folding here is pretty smart imo. Even straightforward. Hell, I might check/fold 9T here if deep stacked enough OOP.

A more interesting question would be how we play 99 on this board.

I Bet/fold this flop prob 1/2 pot.

If you give five Villains a range of 50% of starting hands: 33+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J4s+,T6s+,96s+,86s+,76s,65s,A2o +,K5o+,Q7o+,J7o+,T8o+,98o each of those Villains has as much equity as pocket aces.

If you have a VPIP of 50% you're doing as well as pocket aces on this flop.

This is the easiest fold on the flop in the entire world.

So we don't have the 20% equity we need to make this call?

Yeah, we actually have less equity than the three people we are continuing against:

I gave them a huge, ugly range. But no matter how many semi-possible hands I added, our Aces never even came close to a favorite. Adding AJ and KJ to their ranges brought aces all the way up to 15.27, a 0.33% increase.

Check/folding aces is just smart poker, on this board and in this position.

I'm pretty sure overpairs on horrible boards in multiway pots are massive leaks for most beginners. A ton of things have to go right for us to win this pot. Unless we improve, we have to not be up against 2-pair+, AND the turn and river have to brick out, AND we have to not face another bet on the turn (because srsly, calling multiple streets here would be horrible). We don't just automatically get to realize 100% of our showdown equity for $60.

At a passive table where opponents aren't going to semi-bluff raise, I'd be fine with b/f here, otherwise c/f is the way to go.

And yeah, if $20 is getting 5 callers at this table, raise more pre.

great fold!!!!

Seriously, the inability to fold big overpairs on horrible boards and run outs is easily among the top five biggest leaks of LLSNL players.

Wet broadway boards are death to AA in multiway pots.

We should be able to fold our AA in these spots without a second thought when facing 3+ villains and there has been decent action. In this spot, we hate half the deck and there are decent odds we are already behind...

Nice fold...

well done sir!

We are only continuing against 2 players though not 3. Although the action is confusing in the OP as it seems to ignore UTG+1. I am under the assumption we are against 2 villains.

it's a good fold but why only raise to 20 UTG in a loose table? Maybe bet 30/35 so you don't get so many callers? Like if one person calls the 20 next to you, the chain reaction domino effect begins.

Sure, and that's and well and good.
But does a 1/4 PSB and a call count as decent action?

Esp the second person, who should have a very weak range after just calling.

Sure, we hate half hte deck, but getting 6:1 on our money right now, can't we afford to peel and look for the other half the desk?

with all the people in the hand on a 910J flop an overpair isn't really going to be the nuts here. And if we call the first bet, what is going to stop us from calling the second bet if nothing has changed

Nice C/F.

We have blockers to AJ, however it is unlikely LP players bet into a large field with this holding. We are not blocking nutty hands or NFD, so I like checking rather than leading. When LP start putting $ in multi-way, TP usually way behind.

Pre – UTG with many yet to act, I’d raise more.

I hate the check fold. Not for the folding part but for the checking part. This is a bet/fold for sure.

Raise more pre since it seems you can get calls for more.