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Cash game novice.  Am I missing bets in these hands? Cash game novice.  Am I missing bets in these hands?

10-02-2015 , 04:46 PM
First couple orbits. I have no reads on main V as he was just seated
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/7025694
1-2NL
UTG limps V1 makes it $13 UTG+2 I call in BB with AQ UTG calls. A35. I check, V2 check, V1 bets $50. I call V2 folds. A I check hoping V2 will fire again (mistake?) he checks behind. 4 I bet $75 V2 folds.
Should I have reraised on flop? Led out on turn? Any advice or different lines are welcomed.
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10-02-2015 , 04:52 PM
Hand #2
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/7025695

Hand #3
V is a maniac. He has called down and fired on river with total air twice in 3 orbits. Called down with bottom pair once.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/7026139
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10-02-2015 , 04:56 PM
Hand 1 consider 3betting pre from the BB to iso V so you don't have to play OOP multiway.
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10-02-2015 , 05:00 PM
Away from the table that makes a ton of sense. In the moment I was hesitant to build a big pot pre with AQ and have to fold on blanked flop
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10-02-2015 , 05:46 PM
The second ace is an bad card for you. It kills your profits when you do have the best hand and makes it hard to fold when you don't. Against an unknown I like the check to see what villain does. If villain is betting again you need to consider the possibility villain has you beat.

The best you can hope for at that point is a check behind, a nice blank on the river and you can make a small value bet. The river you did get is terrible, it adds 4 to a straight and a flush. Against an unknown bet/fold small is probably best.
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10-02-2015 , 06:37 PM
On hand 2, I don't think it's generally a very good idea to try to salvage a hand when you start out to set-mine and you miss.

They say the key to this game (to paraphrase) is to with the most you can when you win, and lose the least amount of money possible when you lose. The choice couldn't be more stark than it is with 33. Maximize your winnings when you spike, and don't value-own yourself when you don't.

You won some money here, but that wasn't your job. Your job was to lose a small pot. Without going into inordinate detail, betting on the low end of a straight, when there's a flush draw on the board, and your backup plan is to spike the nut low flush... well, that's not how you generally go about losing a small pot, present circumstances notwithstanding.
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10-02-2015 , 10:43 PM
Thanks QuadJ and AbqDave. Useful insights.
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10-02-2015 , 10:52 PM
Any thoughts on hand 3? I feel the least comfortable with how I played that hand and am curious if I was too aggressive.
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10-03-2015 , 02:45 AM
I think you played hand 3 really well, hand 1 well, and made a mistake that could have led to more mistakes on hand 2.

Hand 1: With 3 aces accounted for villain most likely had a pocket pair and continuation bet cause you and other villain showed weakness so you probably got max value. Might have bet the turn and checked the river though cause if that wasn't the case there's a small chance he has a flush draw. But really doesn't make much difference the guy most likely had a pocket pair.

Hand 2: On paper it looks like you have a lot of outs but in reality almost all of them are worthless and you should have check folded the flop. With that many opponents it's very possible someone flopped a flush or strait which would make you hitting a set, flush, or a strait worthless. If nobody does then it's almost guaranteed someone has a higher flush, strait, or boat draw. Basically you got lucky no one hit a higher hand and made you pay.

Hand 3: Well played. Normally I would not suggest check raising the flop with an overcard on board but in this case the bet by villain was so small relative to the pot it meant 1 of 2 things. He was bluffing (most likely) and didn't want to risk too much or he had the nuts and was trying to make sure he got a call. Your bet was just the right size to figure out which without taking to much of a risk. The other guy's check/call pattern tells me he was on a draw so you played it right by not letting him get any free cards.
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10-03-2015 , 02:48 AM
PS didn't know about poker hand replays. I'll have to use that next time.
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10-03-2015 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by aces hold?
I was hesitant to build a big pot pre with AQ and have to fold on blanked flop
That beats the hell out of playing multiway OOP. The trick to NLH is harvesting dead money, so you need to be able to spot situations where you have fold equity, which is a major source of dead money. You sometimes do get fold equity OOP OTF. BUT, the more multiway you are OTF, the less likely you are to harvest the dead money from OOP.

Quick example of fold equity and dead money. Someone raises with AJ, you reraise with AQs, everyone folds to the BB, who has AQo.

IF AJ guy is a spewy donkey who has you both covered, AQo guy should probably call. When he folds, the blind becomes dead money (I think; that may be approximate). Your fold equity is the increase in the expected return on your hand that occurs when he folds, compared to the expected return if he had called.

Last edited by BadlyBeaten; 10-03-2015 at 03:59 AM.
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10-03-2015 , 04:10 AM
In the future please only use one HH per thread and work on layout and detail.
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10-03-2015 , 01:53 PM
Thanks brawndo and badlybeaten. Will do acesplayerdeluxe.
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