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03-29-2014 , 03:36 AM
Here are some general notes I quickly wrote while playing 1/2NL live.
Looking for general commentary.
I know LOTS of details are missing, but this is the best I can do.
Please let me know if anything is played correctly, or very incorrectly.

(1)
Pocket 4's.
Guy before me goes all in for $22.
I fold. (Flops comes 6 4 10)

(2)
78 OTB.
I bet 6 preflop.
V raises 15.
I call.
Flop comes 5AJ.
Someone bets, I fold.

(3)
Pocket 9's.
I call 10.
Flop I bet $20.
V calls.
Turn is 9.
I bet $50.
V folds.

(4)
Pocket 6's.
I bet $6 preflop.
Someone raises $15. I call.
Flop comes Q 10 A. Someone bets $20. I fold. (Turn comes a 6)

(5)
AJ.
Late position.
$5 call.
After flop, I C-bet $15 into $30 pot.
V folds.

(6)
Pocket 9's.
I do $12 bet.
Flop is 3 undercards.
V bets to $24, all in.
Another caller goes all in before me.
I fold my 9s. (Pair of 8's wins the hand)

(7)
QJ.
UTG
I fold to $10 bet.
Flop comes 8 Q 4.

(8)
78. Late position.
V bets $15. I fold.
Flop comes K 6 8 7 3.

(9)
J 10.
Flop comes QAA
Small stack bets.
I fold.

(10)
Pocket 5's. OTB.
V goes all in.
I fold.

(11)
10 J
Cutoff position.
Flop comes AQJ.
$50 pot.
V bets $22.
(Getting 3:1, or 25% pot odds)
But need King. 4 outs. 8/1/6%
I folded.
(Hand is won by K 10)

(12)
Pocket 6's. Got crushed. Gutted my stack.
Don't recall the details.
I think I was trying to semi-bluff.
Ended with 2 pairs, but another guy had higher 2 pair.

(13)
A9
Cutoff
V bets $10.
I fold.

(14)
Down to my last $35.
75. Flop comes 758.
I go all in.
River is 5.
Multi-handed.
I am back to $200 !!


Let me know what hand number you're commenting on....
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03-29-2014 , 04:30 AM
So you want us to comment on 14 hands where we don't know your stack size, don't know V's stack size, often don't know positions, and without reads.

Let's go for quality over quantity.
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03-29-2014 , 04:41 AM
It seems like you're second guessing your (correct) folds when you hit your cards later.
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03-29-2014 , 04:47 AM
Only comment I can make is that your thinking is results oriented. Why do you care what the turn is if you folded the flop?
Stop this results oriented thinking!!!!! You seem more likely to remember the card after you fold than the cards before you folded. Instead think about reads on players, stack sizes and pot size etc.
Impossible to comment on any of these eg with the pocket 4s first hand it is very read dependent and we need details of the dead money already in there. Probably folding is fine

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Last edited by Bill Hickok; 03-29-2014 at 05:11 AM.
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03-29-2014 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Hickok
Only comment I can make is that your thinking is results oriented. Why do you care what the turn is if you folded the flop?
Stop this results oriented thinking!!!!! You seem more likely to remember the card after you fold than the cards before you folded. Instead think about reads on players, stack sizes and pot size etc.
Impossible to comment on any of these eg with the pocket 4s first hand it is very read dependent and we need details of the dead money already in there. Probably for is fine

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+1

I think folding the fours is the correct play. Too many players behind to call or ISO.
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03-29-2014 , 05:04 AM
A lot of hands are either played terribly or shouldnt have even been a question.

Focus on just one hand at time and give us stack sizes and villain reads
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03-29-2014 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LadyBugger
(12)
Pocket 6's. Got crushed. Gutted my stack.
Don't recall the details.
I think I was trying to semi-bluff.
Ended with 2 pairs, but another guy had higher 2 pair.
Well you clearly **** the bed here

Seriously, Bro, BBV is thataway. Especially with exclamations at the end. This is a strat forum. As the other guy said, without reads, stacks, etc, it's difficult to give much deep thought to your play. Go read the stickies, grab one of these hands, flesh it out as described, and let er rip...or, x-post in BBV4L
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03-29-2014 , 08:01 AM
Don't setmine HU/3way in raised pots.

+1 on the results oriented.

Instead of focusing on how the board affected the hand that you folded, you should be focusing on how it affects the hands of your villains that are still in the hand and how they reacted to certain actions.
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03-29-2014 , 10:19 AM
You are very lucky
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03-29-2014 , 11:36 AM
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Don't setmine HU/3way in raised pots.

This is way too generic to be accurate. Say you're 200bb deep and a nit raises UTG to 4bb and it folds to you on the button. You're folding 55? No way, never.
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03-29-2014 , 01:52 PM
At this point, I am a beginner who is barely breaking even on 1/2NL.
If there is anything that appears BLATANTLY wrong, let me know.

This is the most detail I can possibly transcribe b/w live hands.
Maybe when I am more experienced, more details will be apparent.
For now, all I can do it write my general position, cards/flop, and bet.
At some point, maybe I'll be able to note other player's info.
For now, it's way too much.
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03-29-2014 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowball2
A lot of hands are either played terribly or shouldnt have even been a question.

Focus on just one hand at time and give us stack sizes and villain reads
Based on the very limited info, can you tell me which hands appear to have been played terribly (regardless of context)?
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03-29-2014 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyBugger
Based on the very limited info, can you tell me which hands appear to have been played terribly (regardless of context)?
Most of your hands are standard folds which are only posted here now because you wouldve "hit something" if you just stuck around. That is being result oriented. As no one is psychic, you can only make decisions based on the information you have on hand.

I especially hate #14 where you had $35 left and got in the pot with 75. Unless you were in a bb that was limped to, the only two ways to play this pot is to 1) fold pf!! , 2) squeeze shove from the blinds or late position when a bunch of people limped to you (this is a more advanced concept as it involves taking your table image/dead money in the pot / fold equity on other villains all into consideration so you should probably not do this move yet as it seems to me you are missing some fundamental concepts).
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03-29-2014 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyBugger
At this point, I am a beginner who is barely breaking even on 1/2NL.
If there is anything that appears BLATANTLY wrong, let me know.

This is the most detail I can possibly transcribe b/w live hands.
Maybe when I am more experienced, more details will be apparent.
For now, all I can do it write my general position, cards/flop, and bet.
At some point, maybe I'll be able to note other player's info.
For now, it's way too much.
Work on making it your goal to get these 2 things next time when you post a strat post here:
- effective stack sizes (whoever has the smallest stack in the hand) - this should be easy
- label your opponents in a very general manner: tag/lag/station/etc. To make it easier, how often do you see them playing a hand? And are they the ones calling or raising when they do?

You shouldnt be playing in a hand if you dont even know these crucial peices of information. This is because they will dictate which hands you should be playing, and how.

This forum WILL help you become a huge winning player at llsnl if you follow advice. Gl!
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03-29-2014 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowball2
I especially hate #14 where you had $35 left and got in the pot with 75. Unless you were in a bb that was limped to, the only two ways to play this pot is to 1) fold pf!! , 2) squeeze shove from the blinds or late position when a bunch of people limped to you (this is a more advanced concept as it involves taking your table image/dead money in the pot / fold equity on other villains all into consideration so you should probably not do this move yet as it seems to me you are missing some fundamental concepts).
I was just ready to go home. I decided I would shove on a gapped connected. I think there were a lot of people who called, so there was a lot of money in the pot. With all low cards, no one hit, and the C-bet was effective. Became head's up with a lot of uncontested money left in the pot.

This hand made me see another type of strategy...
The pre flop 3-bet...(Which is what I think I did)

Say bet is $5, and there are a bunch of callers.
When hero is late position,
If he raises to $10, he will get a lot of callers since it's just another $5.
But, if he raises to $30, many will fold.
Maybe even everyone, and now hero just won $30.

What are the general rules for this type of play?
Do you match what's in the pot?
Is this called 3-betting preflop?
This seems like it can be a good way to get uncontested money.

Any general rules for this type of play?

It seems better to do when there has already been a raise,
b/c there is a lot more money in the pot already.
Doesn't have the same effect is there are a bunch of $2 limps in the pot.
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03-29-2014 , 04:17 PM
It's called a squeeze. Generally speaking you can 3 bet with a bluff (if you dont think anyone will call), as a semi-bluff (get maybe 1-2 callers when you have: lots of equity against their range, position, stacks are deep enough, and can out play them post flop), or for value (so when you have aa/kk/qq etc)

You can use the search function to find threads/posts on squeeze play that will explain the concept more thoroughly and better than i can.
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03-29-2014 , 04:34 PM
I stopped reading after the third hand. If you really want to improve your game I suggest the following:

1) don't post more than 2 hands in one thread, its just too many to follow
2) when posting hands try to be as detailed as possible (stack sizes, reads on villain, table image, history, etc.)
3) when posting a hand, do not post the results until at least after 24 hours of posting

By being vague in each of these scenarios no one can really help you, especially because based on these posts I can see there is a lot of you being results oriented. If these certain details are the only things you can remember, I suggest that when you play a hand and you want to post it on 2p2, take notes on the hand on your phone so you can refer back to it.

GL
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03-29-2014 , 10:23 PM
Ok, I had not been playing well,doing all kinds of thirmgs wrong so I decided to simplify by playing a short stack.

1/2 nlhe with stacks of 100+ bb except for me.
1. Mid pos raises to 15. With jacks in the cutoff I go all in with 45. Lucked out and won. Normally that is a call.
2. AJ suited in cutoff, 50bb. 5 limpers my $11 bet called by button and the five limpers. j85 rainbow. Utg bets$ 8, four callers, only one on button remains so I bet 2/3rds the Pot all in. The button, the only person I had to get bye snaps and lag in mid calls.

Blank and a 4 give LAG a straight (56) and button had flopped a set.
3. AJ again in cut off. Raised, got two callers, Button and mid. Flop ace and two low cards. With a pot of 33, I bet $45 all in. Button, with ace ten calls and hits the ten on the turn.

There were other more straight standard hands but why discuss them. These theee stood out.
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