1/2 $100-$500 buy in game AC


Hero playing aggressive but selectively. I have position on a mega donator who is drinking Johnny Walker and getting worse by the second. The table is 6 not great regs, that guy, and a few others. Everyone is just sitting back and taking their piece of Johnny Walker, but he doesn't fair in this hand. ~$525

Villain: Middle aged Lady, bad reg. We have tons of history and it's safe to say we don't like each other. We've sparred verbally on multiple occasions. I have pretty much owned her for 3 years straight and she hates it (I think). She cheers if I lose a big pot when she's not involved, constantly talks trash about me and my game to others at the table. Constantly critics the hands I'm involved in, Like if I bet and someone folds she would bark out, "How could you fold he never has it there, I would have called." That type of thing constantly for years now.
She plays aggressive, she isn't pathetic totally, can hand read a little. Plays like a tourney player in the sense that she likes to put her whole stack in the middle both for value and to force folds.(over bet shoves, shoves draws, calls raises oop then donk ships the next card etc.) She understands the game more than many but doesn't execute very well imo. I'm sure she's a loser overall. She views hero as super agro and arrogant. ~$180


3 limps to hero otb who makes it $16 w/ Q:T Villain calls from mp, everyone else folds. (I'm isoing Johnny Walker, this is the first hand he hasn't limp/called in probably 2 hours)

flop ~$30 AJ9 vill bets $15 hero calls
turn ~$60 4 vill bets $30 hero raises to $85, vill tank calls
river ~$230 A villain insta shoves for $65 hero?


I will say w/ 100% certainty her opening range from mp is A9+, 66+. She probably opens A7s+, and limp calls A2s-A6s. So she never has a big Ace or a set unless she turned a 4.

What do we think about her line? Can we ever fold here getting 5-1 and holding the Q?

Why are you raising the turn? Check to see the draw, I'm not sure V has enough of a stack to make it worth it, but raising turns this into a bluff, raise ai if you're going to raise.

I'd just flat the flop and turn and fold the river. No one seems to notice when I take a passive line like that to the river it was a missed draw, they just seem ecstatic that they won a pot.

I raised the turn because I don't think she can have any big Aces, sets or 2 pair. I want to fold out her Ace rags and not let her draw at her flushes cheaply.

Well when she shoves that Ace which doesn't complete any draws, it looks as though you were incorrect.

you think she has weak aces, yet you want to call? you don't beat 22.

I think you're good here less than 10%, for sure not often enough to call. Poor planning on the turn, she never thinks u have anything so u raise the turn with just a straight draw.

Your own read on her opening range means you can't call, you have 0% equity.

Not after the river shove. I was saying because of pre flop she can only have weak A's. I don't think jamming the river w/ Ax makes any sense here.

How do you come up with 10%?

can you explain why she doesn't think I can have anything ott? What value hand can she have on the turn?

I don't understand at all? What do you mean?

Dude. Every hand you put in her opening range beats you. You're asking if you should call. The answer is no.

Your turn raise is no good. I don't think you can call turn because stacks are too shallow. You could shove turn if you think you get enough folds. I'm not getting the sense you will. So turn is probably a fold. Raising and leaving a 1/4 pot sized bet on the river is not a good plan.

I think the flop pot is 41, not 30.

Don't get into it with this woman. You want people to like you. And you'll have more fun that way, too. Your relationship with her sounds very negative.

I love that your read was, she thinks Im arrogant in a post where you want to call with Queen after a donk flop bet and a turn raise gets called.

I mean you set so much money on fire in every part of this hand, might as well call the 65 i guess.

I mean i know you didn't write this thinking many people were going to tell you to call but i say, go out in flames!

She probably has 78hh. EZ call IMO.

Uhh any ace, jack, 44, 99

Way to get into a dick swinging competition with an old lady bro

Reminds of the episode of WSOP I just watched, the national championship, were the guy called with TJo. and they go back and show the episode from a few years ago where he got called by J high:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPNZ6gbeRSA

I'd rather raise her donk lead otf if you were planning to put pressure on her rather than waiting for the turn.

Pretty standard answer to "can we fold q hi here" is yes. Always. This is 1/2 for gods sake. If someone put money into the pot once you're beat here always.

I think Villain has A-rag alot. Still, if you feel it may be a bluff, then only you can make that deduction based on history, tendencies, the "feel" at the moment. However, the only problem is that if it is a bluff (and that is a stretch, imo), it is most always a bluff with the best hand, ie something like K9 or any KX

Seems like a fold to me. I'm not a big fan of the turn raise but I understand why you did it. But seriously, fold that crap.

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Dunno why you're isoing with QTo

After 3 limpers I'm usually just overlimping behind, but if you're successful in constantly iso-ing Johnny Walker then I don't hate the raise. Frankly, I have a hard time believing this iso attempt will typically work since all the limpers know that Johnny Walker is going to call, so now they figure they'll have pot odds to call with their hand. But you know your table, and you were successful with an iso attempt, so I can't hate.

I also cbet 1/2 PSB and see if it will take it down. Plus we build pot for out hand and can possibly set ourselves up for taking a free card on the turn.

I don't like the turn raise at all. First off, with these remaining stacks, the only raise size is an all-in. Secondly, she thinks we are FOS; this is not the person we should be attempting to bluff. Thirdly, she's a fairly small stack and is almost committing herself here. I just call, getting 3:1 and knowing that it's highly unlikely she'll be able to fold the river if we hit.

As played, I'm not into making hero calls with Q high after she's called a raise on the turn. What are we hoping for, T8? A small flush draw? She could also be bluffing a huge percentage of hands that are actually ahead of Q high.

ETA: I missed the fact that she donked into us on the flop, so that probably does change the dynamics of the hand a little. I still go into call-and-try-to-hit mode though.

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On the turn we're getting 3:1, so we're going to need to make up ~$60+ on the river to breakeven. On the river (if OP's numbers are all correct) it looks like the pot will be $120 with her having $120 left (a PSB). She thinks we are FOS. Plus we're in position (if she bets anything she'll pretty much have to call off the rest, and if she checks she'll likely still call a shove due to us obviously bluffing over her show of weakness). Plus 6 of our outs are pretty non-scary. If we hit our hand, we only need to get her stack 50% of the time on the river to breakeven, and I think we get it a lot more than that.

Gcallturn,imoG

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WTF???

This is ego spewtardedness at its finest. Based on OP description, she is a terribad tourney player meaning she should have very few bluffs in her range and worse, even if she is bluffing it could be with a hand that still beats you.

Not to mention you and her are involved in a blood feud and you keep claiming she always thinks you are bluffing...

Sorry, this is just horrible all the way around.

Preflop raise is fine,

Flop: once she donk bets into you, she has "something" and is never folding to you (especially given your blood feud). thus, you need to hit your draw. So draw, hope to bink that K or 8 and then insta shove because she's never folding to you.

As played, if you Hero called here and won, then you got super lucky. And raising the turn??? OMG WTF are you doing??? You can't bluff someone you are blood feuding with because they are never folding ANY value hand against you like ever....

Sorry, this hand stinks worse than a 4 day old diaper of a baby that is feed nothing but licorice and Indian Food...

so so bad