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Originally Posted by Fluid Mosaic
No previous reads on villain. $220 effective stacks. Hero has a tightish image.
Preflop
Villain, UTG+1 Limps,
3 other limpers.
Hero completes in SB with J8dd.
Flop($10)
AJ8cc
Hero bets 12
Villain raises 25
Hero calls
Turn($60)
AJ8J
Hero checks
Villain bets $50
Hero c/rs to $100
Villain ships over for $92 more
Hero?
GRUNCH
if effective stacks were 900bb then sure, you could fold
but with eff stacks 100bb, there is no way on God's green earth you can fold here. You have the third nuts (very unlikely V has AA) and 99% of all LLSNL players would stack off with Jx or eights full...
Obviously, since you started this thread odds are you ran into AJ, but seriously, folding here is just not profitable.
The only way a fold is correct here is if you know for 100% fact V is never shoving with eights full or Jx. Then yeah, if that is the case, you can easily fold. But for 99.999% of the villains you will face, this isn't even remotely the case, hence why a call here for 100bb is mandatory and +EV...
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Originally Posted by fatmanonguitar
If villain shipped for 300 more I'd still have an instacall boner.
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
Don't think so when he c/r flop then b/3b over a c/r. In that case getting 250 bb seems kinda bad though its highly villain dependent of course
If villain will take the above line with 88 then we still call. And vast majority of villains at this level are playing eights full as if its the nuts so no way I'm folding. Granted, I don't think i'd have a boner, but I would still make the call.