1/3 $300 effective

V is OMC. Haven’t seen him play many hands over the past 3 hours.

Hero has been very aggro raising large over multiple limpers frequently. I’ve run my stack up to about $1000 from $300 by running good but I haven’t actually had to show down many hands.

UTG limps
V (CO) raise to $15
Hero (BB) K Q call
SB call and UTG call

Normally I’d 3! this hand but decided not to due to how bitty V is.

Pot $60
Flop 4 8 T
Checks around

Pot $60
Turn J
Checks to hero
Hero $35
SB and UTG fold
V calls

Pot $130
River A
V donks $40

His line doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t see why spades would play this way. Maybe AA or KQ can do this. Or he could be making a random bluff. He isn’t sophisticated enough to be making a blocker bet. So I really struggle to put him on a hand/range. Additionally I don’t know what hands this guy would call a small raise with. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him call a raise to $100 with just a pair of aces, but I also wouldn’t be shocked if he folded top 2.

After thinking about it for a while I decided that a raise/fold was my best option but I’m still not sure.

V has a non-nut flush, but I'm not good enough to fold very often. I've seen this a ton from OMC types. Heck, I look like an OMC myself and have pulled this type of donk bet into the 20-30 somethings that have clearly studied to push them off a hand. Works too.

That said, call and say nice hand.

With how tight he’s been the only non nut flush he can have KQs. I’m not sure he’s raising KQs pre 100% even

V donks, or you check and he bets river? HH seems off because V is in CO and we're in BB, so he has position on us, no? No way would I consider folding here ever either way though.

I think our turn semi-bluff is too ambitious given there's still two other players ahead of us. If we're going to freeze up OTR when getting there though, it makes the turn bet even less valuable. As played, whether we were donked into or checked, given this sizing, I'd probably b/f $100 hoping to get looked up by AJ or slowplayed TT/AT, maybe an AK with a spade. His sizing seems transparent. Usually, I see OMCs blast this with a flush. Oh, and if we are in BB and were first to act, this seems like a terrible check. Gotta bet for value ourselves.

Sorry I am button not bb

Oh... ok. I like the turn bet more then. I think we can squeeze some value by betting small, like ~100. This guy could have 2p and maybe some sets like I mentioned.

Isn’t this AA from OMC a lot of the time? Definitely raising river - something like $110 or so.

Took me forever to realize this, but I finally figured out we're Button, not BB, right?

I think preflop is close. My initial thought was to actually fold when I thought we were in the BB due to being OOP and having poor RIO versus IO against his (I'm assuming) tight OMC raising range. Being in position helps out on this, although I still think it is close.

I'm also letting the flop check thru.

I think I'm ok with taking a stab at the turn. Doubtful that any of the EP guys are still sandbagging now that the preflop raiser has checked thru the flop. So we should have some FE plus some hand equity.

I just don't see how he can show up with a flush here given the way he's played it. In fact, about the only thing I can put him on is another KQ. So I think I would actually just shove and free roll him folding to what looks like our flush.

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The thing about OMC is once he hits his hand, he's extremely sticky. If he has a flush, he's not folding because at worse it is KQs. A raise is only targeting another KQ. I don't think an OMC calls the turn with a straight draw with a flush board out. Anything smaller is gone. I'd call to see what he has to get an idea of what his raising range is pf if I expect to play against him regularly. If not, I'm good with a fold if the read is correct.

Naturally if Hero is wrong about his read, don't fold.

So he's active enough to raise preflop without a pair, yet flops a flush draw and doesn't bet it, and when he makes it on the turn he attempts to let it check thru again and then just check/calls when the lone guy behind him bets? I'm just not seeing how he shows up with a flush here.

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Just call is just a NIT move.

It may not be manly to flat call, but I can't see V calling a raise--even a small one--with anything worse than our hand. So I don't see much profit here, and there's the nonzero possibility that he does have a flush, however insane his line may have been, which means we're setting fire to our money by raising.

This is one of eleventy squillion situations I've come across over the years where we probably have the best hand, but that's still not enough justification to raise.

If a hugenormous part of his range here is a chopping KQ (likely one with a single spade, and I'm honestly finding it very difficult for him to show up with anything else), then there is a huge benefit in raising him off the chop.

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