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Call it off multiway with big combo draw? Call it off multiway with big combo draw?

02-23-2017 , 11:31 PM
1/2 home game.

Hero ($350): early 30's white guy. One of the tighter players in the game, but known to be aggressive post flop and willing to get out of line. Winner in the game.

V1 ($200): thinking player, but consistently bad decision-maker. One of those younger guys who talks through every hand and usually makes the wrong choice anyway. Pays off way too much.

V2 ($165): MAWG. Tight. Decent hand reader, but more or less straightforward. Winning player.

V3 ($300): Early 20's asian. He sat down a few minutes ago, so no reads.

UTG limps
V1 raises to $14 UTG+1
V2 calls UTG+2
V3 calls HJ
Hero has QJ in the CO and elects to call. I don't see a reason to raise here with position.
Everyone else folds.

Flop ($61): T87

V1 leads $25. I range him here with mostly overpairs and sets. I don't think he has many draws here other than the nut flush draws.
V2 takes about 5 seconds and jams $186
V3 thinks for 30 seconds and jams $300

Hero?
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02-23-2017 , 11:41 PM
I'd fold. With you putting V1 on a strong range and having 2 shoves behind you, I'd be worried that we only have 3 clean outs (and it's quite possible that one of the Vs are holding a 9).

For me it's an entirely different situation if we had AJhh here instead of QJhh. In that situation I'd be willing to GII knowing we're never crushed, especially if I think V1 will come along too. As is, I'm letting this one go.
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02-24-2017 , 12:00 AM
Fold asap. Calling is -EV
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02-24-2017 , 12:04 AM
agree with everything stated above. There are too many times here that you will be drawing to only non heart 9s as played.

Pretty flop but clear fold I think
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02-24-2017 , 12:15 AM
Snap fold.
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02-24-2017 , 04:17 AM
pretty standard sigh then fold
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02-24-2017 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by patchohare
pretty standard sigh then fold
/thread

I also throw in my go to "what the f..." as my cards hit the muck
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02-24-2017 , 10:06 AM
Yeah, WTF was the first thing out of my mouth. I figured my flush draw was no good, and I was only drawing to three outs. Once V3 shoved, I had to be done with the hand.

Results!

I folded, V1 folded. V2 showed AA, V3 K9

They ran it once and it went brick-brick.

If V3 folds, this is a clear call for me, right?
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02-24-2017 , 12:54 PM
Without seeing the result I can tell you your draws are going to be blocked to hell and back. Good fold. V2 played kind of weird for the description you gave him unless there is a 3! every hand.
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02-24-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mervinswerved
Yeah, WTF was the first thing out of my mouth. I figured my flush draw was no good, and I was only drawing to three outs. Once V3 shoved, I had to be done with the hand.

Results!

I folded, V1 folded. V2 showed AA, V3 K9

They ran it once and it went brick-brick.

If V3 folds, this is a clear call for me, right?
i owuld still probably get out, wet board and you are on the bottom end of the flush draw. with a raise and 2 calls of a x7 preflop raise im narrowing their ranges to suited Ax K10+ and medium and big pairs. how big are the normal raise that makes people fold preflop? homegames can get wild sometimes! you have the least information about v3 so when he folds you are left with v2 who you describe as straightforward more or less. him jamming shows me he wants to get you off with better and get you in with worse i think its -ev to call still. but i dont really know much this is just my opinion im still learning
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