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Is this call down with A high @ 1/2 profitable? Is this call down with A high @ 1/2 profitable?

09-29-2017 , 11:51 AM
$100 cap buyin 1/2nl @Crown Melbourne

Villain: mid 20's asian guy bad LAG. Hero 3bet QQ vs another player earlier in the session and board comes A high and stack off against that player and QQ was good. After, the Villain complained to the table that he should've cold called the 3bet with ATo because he would've hit his Ace. Another hand, few limpers to V in CO and isos to a small $10 with K2s, 4 handed and board comes K76r. V's cbet gets check raised and he 3bets the flop and they get it in ~100BB effective stack. Other V had 76 and the V in discussion binks a K on the turn. Current stack of $500+

Hero: mid 20's Asian guy. TAG image. Everyone at the table is aware that Hero is playing a solid narrow range preflop from early position, thus early position opens and 3bets get a lot of respect. High % showdown winrate. Stack of $240.

OTTH: Hero opens AK UTG $12. V calls in the CO. Heads up to the flop
(Pot: $27) Flop: J 34 Backdoor nfd and two overs Hero cbets $15 planning to bet fold. V calls.
(Pot: $57) Turn J Hero checks. V snap bets two greens($50) aggressively and verbal announcement. Hero tank calls? [Why bet so aggressively, quickly and so large with trips if Hero looks like he has TT/QQ type hands?]
(Pot $157) River 8 Hero checks and V snap jams. $161 to call. Hero?

What is inticing is that ALL draws bricked. I get a lot of replies will remind me of the crap odds we're getting on the river of ~ 2:1. But on this runout + betsize, V is super polarised to Jx+. But, we can't beat some hands V is turning into a bluff like 4x/66 type hands. But given the polarizing bet combined with the live tells is this a profitable call?

Last edited by M3rcy1993; 09-29-2017 at 12:00 PM.
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09-29-2017 , 12:37 PM
You're going to see the Jh or 8h a ton here IMO. But quick verbal bets are usually defensive/bluffy/draw types of bets .. notice he didn't verbalize the River from your description.

Calling off $50 with 2 overs is a little different than calling an all-in with Ace high ... did you contemplate raising the Turn? GL
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09-29-2017 , 12:55 PM
Dat feel when he turns over Q3o and says "Kings are good".

Raising turn is indeed much better then calling 2 streets, you having the Ah is bad for your hand, I'd just muck OTT. Shoving is a sick play because better will fold (some pp, middle and bottom pairs) and worse will call (fd,oe, maybe ace high gutter even).

I'm all for the soul reads and if you know he is 100%bluffing even with the Ah I think you call. He looks like the type to just raise/GII OTF here with TP.
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09-29-2017 , 01:16 PM
Your biggest mistake is playing in this rake trap of a game
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09-29-2017 , 04:29 PM
Yeah this ^

Also I'd just fold turn. You're drawing dead when he does have a jack and our nf blocker is less good now that the board paired
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09-29-2017 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
Yeah this ^

Also I'd just fold turn. You're drawing dead when he does have a jack and our nf blocker is less good now that the board paired
Less good? I'd say it's bad to have the nut flush blocker on a board like this after villain calls flop.... It's good in terms of getting our cbets through a bit more often though.

Last edited by pocketzeroes; 09-29-2017 at 04:47 PM.
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09-29-2017 , 07:28 PM
$100 cap $15 rake???

Ya that's gonna be very difficult to beat.

I mean if he is a spewtard you can call - you got a great run out but problem is you have the Ah. He shouldn't have that many flush draws in his range that play like this. Maybe 6h7h but that is really optimistic. I probably just fold turn and not worry too much about this.

As played probably folding river? You could even value own yourself against a small pocket pair he just is going nuts with for no reason.
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09-29-2017 , 07:39 PM
100max buyin, 10% capped at $20
His next option is 1/3 100-300 max 10% capped at 15
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09-30-2017 , 08:40 AM
Yeah 1/2nl at crown is terrible and almost unbeatable but building a roll for 1/3 plo. So gotta stick with it for the time being and avoid flips as much as possible to account for the huge rake.

In regards to having the Ah, yes its a bad card to have but dont think that's disastrous to have against this player type. I expect floats with hands as bad as QT on the flop to chase backdoors or even KQ & 67. I ended up tank tank tank calling. Villlain.... mucks!!! We don't have to show but we did anyways to tilt him. Scoop a 200BB+ pot with AK high like a boss.
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09-30-2017 , 11:23 AM
I f**king hate 1/2 at Crown. I'd rather short stack 1/3.

For the hand: I'd fold since you have the Ah in your hand, which is like 1/3rd of all his busted FDs blocked out right there. If I had AKss then I'd consider x/jamming the turn, given your strong read.
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