Hero: 20ish WG who has been active and shown down some weird hands to win pots. Knows players in the room from past sessions. Thinks table considers his opening range strong. Stack is about 250 after buying in for 100.

Villain: 35 ish WG who seems pretty tight. Make a-lot of crying folds and laments that he didn’t call. Decent player and doesn’t seem like a regular in the room. Villains hasnt 3! once during the session. Villains stack covers hero.

Hero is UTG +2 and looks down a JsJh and raises to 12.

Villain 3! to 36 and hero calls. The pot is 72 and the flop comes:

Qh3sQc

Hero leads out 25 and villain calls. The pot is 132 and the turn comes.

Qh3sQcQs.

Hero checks to the villain who instantly announces all in. Hero asks villain to show if he folds in attempt to get a response. Villain says “you’re a nice guy so ill show if you fold”. Hero says “you must have aces or kings huh?” in an attempt to gauge villains response. Villain seems to shut down after this statement and stops engaging in table talk.

Over the long haul at these stakes do we call or fold in this spot?




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I would fold given this is his first 3! and those at low stakes tend to be very polarized to AA/KK.

On 2+2, this is a fold. Villain is only doing this with AA/KK and occasionally AQ/KQ.

At the table I convince myself he is doing this with AK or TT-77 and call because I am a stubborn stationy station that never folds his laundry, much less a full house.

JJ is basically a set mining hand against a typical 1/2 3bet range. Im also not a fan of your flop downbet donk. Just check it and see how he likes his hand. Calling most flop bets would not be terrible.

The only weird thing is why is he betting so much. On boards like this bigger bets tend to look bluffier than smaller bets. If he is capable of ranging you he knows you probably dont have a Q here, are at the top of your range with JJ, and his hand looks like AA. Its easy to level yourself into a call here, but I think I still find a fold. In a vacuum you see more large uncallable bets with the effective nuts than you do tricky big bluffs at these stakes. If he does have AK here he has some big gonads and gets props for a sick bluff.

In my experience once you start calling out their possible hands, they clam up right away, regardless of their strength. You can banter during a hand, but once you start trying to guess their hand or ask them if they have something silence is the response. Its not indicative of anything other than there is no real way to respond to that so they just dont.

I rarely initiate in table talk during a hand, with the lone exception being the time Im facing a river bet or an all in on an earlier street. Against a normally talkative person I still wont, because you arent likely to get anything, but against an average quiet person I might ask something like "Are you sure youre ready to lose your whole stack here?" If they give a coherent answer or stay silent, I tilt their range stronger. If they babble some incoherent nonesense, I tilt it weaker.

your risking $190 to win $320 roughly
what does he 3bet for the 1st time that you beat?

you know its a fold
But when sitting there its tempting to talk yourself into a call

Thanks for the replies everyone. I think my biggest mistake in the hand was leading at the flop. I should have x/c a flop bet. That line would probably have induced a x/x turn or at the very least a smaller sized bet ott. AP I agree that bet really ranges my hand for the villain in a way that can be exploited.

In terms of pot odds its a fold I get it. In a 2/5 game I think this is a call in the long run since people may be making a move with 77/88+ . Players in 1/2 are just so much more nutted in general that I auto gave him credit for a full house. It was just a question of whose was better. Given villains line and history I folded. Villain showed TT.

"Stationy station me" is better than "2+2 me."

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