When calculating odds do you do it street by street for example if you drawing to the nut flush you have about 33-36% of hitting it by the river how would you determine if you had the odds to continue


Hero AK

Board 2 5 Q

Pot is 100

Villan bets 30 , ( you need 2:1 to call right?) if not what do you need to call with

65% street by street,
30% both
5% by river only

Your example is an easy call, if not raise situation. You are showing nut flush draw with 2 overs on a board where only A3/A4 can really hurt you generally. You are probably still over 40% to win here unless AQ/KQ is out there.

First look at 'straight' pot odds to call ... this is easy here as you are getting 4.33 to 1 to call.

You also need to look at 'implied' odds ... Do you think you will get paid if your hand hits? Against some opponents they will never pay off if a flush hits board, certainly not on the Turn when another flush card could come on the River as well. In these types of pots you need to raise the Flop bet so you get your money 'now' since they wont put it in when you hit.

Dont look at it as 'building a pot'. You were given super odds to call here and lets assume all your outs are good here against QcJc. You are looking for betting the 'value' of your hand, which is actually 52% to win right now!! Your worst case scenario is againat QQ and you are still 25% to win.

If you call there will be $160 in pot, now you (should) can easily raise $80 (giving 3 to 1) to shoving over the top and still be betting for 'value' based on what you think your opponent has here ... again, worst case you are 25% to win.

When calculating odds you MUST consider what your opponent might have also. Dont get caught up in your holdings only. In your case here you are still 35% to win with ANY 2 hearts so you are easily priced into this Flop bet and are looking for around 3 to 1 (25%) to call a Turn bet (up to $80) if you just call the Flop bet.

If you dont think you are going to get paid, then you either have to raise for value before the next card comes out or fold your hand. Making a call that really is -EV is well, bad!! GL

All you got to know is odds for the next card to hit a , plus maybe an Ace or a King will be good. Unless you shove all in and in that case you got odds with two cards to come. For the next card you multiply by 2 the number of outs and for two cards to come multiply by 4

But the most important thing to know is this:
What is a big hand?
What is a big pot?
When you're about to be committed?

If you understand the above you got the other dudes by the balls.

What your next move is also depends on your stack size and V stack size. If you and V are deep, I wouldn't mind a raise here to build a pot in case you hit your flush.

And at the least you are definitely calling that flop bet.

Lets assume Villain has AA and Hero has a naked flush draw we need pot odds of 4:1 to call per street with 0.00 implied odds (Villain will not put any more money in if flush draw hits).

always calculate decision by decision

The only move that is -ev here would be folding. Calling is still +ev, unless you are saying "Making a 'call' (call = decision)...."

But I agree. We raise this flop in every way. The only time we really wouldn't raise here is if we are multi-way where we want other weaker hands in to build the pot for us, and that only applies to some cases, it's really situation/image dependent there.

Find a hand simulator online OP and start simulating hands. You'll catch on quick.

Short version - direct pot odds you must go street by street (unless one of you is about to get all-in). With implied odds you can take more into account.

Assume in the example you gave that you KNOW villain has QQ. There are 9 hearts left, but the 2 doesn't help you (gives him the full house) so you have an 8/45 chance to hit your hand. You need 37/8 or 4.6:1 to call if you only count direct pot odds. Assuming you both have a lot of money behind you can't count the odds of hitting by the river because the villain may shove on the turn and you might not get to see the river.

On the other hand, if you are pretty sure the villain will stack off even if you hit your flush you can add his stack to the existing pot (implied odds) which means you can call a bet without getting the proper direct pot odds.

Note that in no-limit your implied odds will often be more important than your pot odds IF you think the opponent will pay you off when you hit your hand, but many new players make the mistake of counting on implied odds too much and chasing too many draws as a result.

Hopefully that makes sense. Feel free to post more questions if you think it is unclear of if you want to look at some additional situations.

An easy rule to remember is the 2/4 rule to calculate your approximate equity in any hand. Multiply the number of outs that you think you have by 2 for one street and 4 for two streets to calculate your equity (it will not be precise).