Hi all,

So I am sure this topic has come up before, but I ran into it tonight at a home game and wanted some input about c-betting AK. V1 is LAG and V2 is mix between LAG and TAG. Both have hero covered. Blinds are 0.25/0.5. Hero has $40 and has been card dead for the past 45 minutes. First hand hero has raised at this table in fact.

Hero raises BTN $3 with AdKs. V1 in SB and V2 in BB call. Pot $9.

Flop: 6c-7s-9s. They both check. Hero?

Do I c-bet to deny equity to hands like QJ and J10 and to charge straight draws, hoping to improve against any hands that made pairs on the flop, or check and take a free card? I will post later streets at some point.

I always cbet here because they may fold putting you on 10--AA which is a very good thing especially on this flop.

I like a check here.

- you are 3 ways vs lags and this board hits enough of their range that you will either get called or CR'd pretty often.

-people are generally more suspicious of the button and tend to put you on a hand like AK more often as well.

976ss is a horrible flop for both your hand since you don't have As and your range. Check all day.

I understand Spyutastic & RiverRat's reasoning,and you don't have a big enough stack to scare them if they made a pair/draw. However, you check & you turn your hand face up: AJs, AQ+. If you check here, you have to be willing to check your overpairs a % of the time, and how comfortable are you doing that on such a wet board?

A check with overpairs makes sense for balance reasons but in a home game balance doesn't matter at all. They aren't gonna start over bluffing cause hero's hand is "face up". Cbetting is just lighting money on fire because on this wet dynamic flop they will not fold anything that connected.

Check. You have two overcards and backdraw spades. The only shame i. this hand is if you bet, get raised and have to fold.



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@LordRiverRat, I've had some bad loose players, read my hand/range right OTT/OTR & tell me what I have & fold, and, I've had decent players call in the same type situations. It's just that the bad players call more often when I have the best of it, and the decent players less often.

flops too wet
no one who got a piece of that's going anywhere
check

When people talk balance it's not that because you are checking AK on bad boards and situations that you must now check all your overpairs. You can still be selective with AK C bets and be fine because you can still C bet with things like good draws and QTclubs type hand. AK is better to go in your checking range here and that's perfectly fine. Just because you move one hand to your checking range on a certain board/situation doesn't mean you now have to move all your value hands as well unless your button raising range is only TT+ and AK.

When you have AK and whiff the flop against 2 opponents you need to c-bet sometimes but check most of the time. 976 is a good flop to check/fold. It probably connects with somebody someplace. Save your c-bets for boards more likely to miss both or where you can more credibly represent top pair.

In a home game where you play the same opponents all the time you should go ahead and throw a bet in occasionally. Bet something like 10-20% of the time. This a balance&bluff bet, balance so that not every bet on this flop is value and bluff because sometimes both opponents will have whiffed that also.

I didn't read it as zune aaying he moves ALL value hands to a check

I checked.

Turn: 3s. V1 checks, V2 bets $6 into $9. Hero? We have Ks.

Fold to the turn bet. If you do catch a spade it's not likely you make any money, you have no idea if an A or K is good.

If it's an invite only home game and you want to keep a loose friendly image this is a good spot to throw in a cheap $6 and show your hand.

Mostly opponent dependant, are they type of players that would float then definitely to not cbet, if they are tricky players and even if you hit an A/K and barrel turn and get check raised how comfortable would you be on that flop ? If they are standard nonthinking opponents not capable of moves like this then I can get behind a cbet considering your tight image,

I'd check flop, fold turn. Deciding when to c-bet a whiffed AK and when to give up can be aggravating at times. I've been in a stretch over the past few weeks where I've found myself OOP with AK and bricking flops quite frequently. Of course it can be V dependent, but 3 ways on a connected middling board like this I'd just give up. I'm looking to c-bet HU and/or on very dry boards where it's hard for Vs to have connected either. IE J52 rainbow or other boards with very few draws and a high card that's not that likely to hit Vs range. I completely understand going through stretches where your big broadway hands continually miss and you keep finding yourself in situations where you really can't do anything but wave the white flag given position and board texture.