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12-22-2020 , 07:18 AM

esspoker

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hero tag image likely
villain mid-30s woman, loose passive, ideal villain, seems newish to the game

Hero QhQs utg+1 raise to 10 standard raise in this 1-2 game

v in HJ calls, CO and BB call.

40

Jd 4c 9d

checked to hero. Best size here?

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12-22-2020 , 08:41 AM

Garick

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Want to tell us about the other Vs?

Generally on a board this wet I will c-bet at least 3/4 pot.

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12-22-2020 , 08:51 AM

TDG90

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Being out of position and multi-way here on a mixed flop type, 50-55% is about right, according to the c bet course I took.

Players need to have something of value to continue multi-way and we can obtain information and also keep pot under control when out of position.

I don't think betting more than 60% of pot helps us in this spot in the long run. Assuming we are consistent in our sizing, it will bloat pots up when we c bet light and cost us more money.

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12-22-2020 , 09:16 AM

Garick

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If we are c-betting light 4-ways OOP, it's already costing us money.

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12-22-2020 , 09:57 AM

QuadJ

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Hero is OOP with a an over pair and a wet board multiway but is too deep to just be automatically committed. I would bet $30 in almost all cases.

Also $10 may be standard preflop but if it's commonly getting 3 callers then go bigger. At most 1/2 games I would go $12-$15 depending on table.

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12-22-2020 , 10:07 AM

TDG90

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Originally Posted by Garick

If we are c-betting light 4-ways OOP, it's already costing us money.

Apologies! I thought this was a 3 way pot, which is a big difference. I like a bet of between $24-$28 so 60-70% pot bet.

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12-22-2020 , 11:41 AM

esspoker

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Originally Posted by Garick

Want to tell us about the other Vs?

Generally on a board this wet I will c-bet at least 3/4 pot.

other vs are regs, decent opps

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12-22-2020 , 11:42 AM

esspoker

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Originally Posted by TDG90

could you mention the course?

I think this is accurate. no real reason to bloat the pot here

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12-22-2020 , 11:58 AM

TDG90

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Originally Posted by esspoker

could you mention the course?

I think this is accurate. no real reason to bloat the pot here

Texas Hold'em Questions one, very in depth and a lot of reading but great value for money and helped my c bet game massively.

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12-23-2020 , 12:02 AM

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jdr0317

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In theory we should bet small. In practice we should exploit the fact that people will be relatively inelastic to a bet when we do bet (like we aren’t going to bet small here so that we can bet AdQ with the intent of bluffing it on some run outs).

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12-23-2020 , 02:18 AM

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esspoker

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Results:

Villain calls.

Turn Kx

X X

River Ax

X X

Villain has KJ for turned 2 pair and didn't value bet

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