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05-29-2013 , 06:54 PM
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can you explain why this is a fist pump all in against an inactive player?
because there are exactly two hand combinations that beat us?
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05-29-2013 , 08:08 PM
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I would 3bet 66 pre multiway. Great flop just unlucky. Will happen sometimes at loose fishy table.
Hahaha sorry OP, DO NOT take my advice here!!!!! Thats supposed to say "wouldn't"! Killing all my credibility with that typo lol.
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05-29-2013 , 08:41 PM
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Is this sarcasm? I can't really tell.

But okay so basically everyone is saying it is a clear call for the $18 preflop on the button and there is no way to avoid getting stacked in this spot. Sucks. During the hand, I couldn't imagine villain having 75 in early position, calling $18 pre.
Yeah 3bet 66 so we can get the pot heads up vs aces. Do you realize how little sense that makes? I am not being sarcastic, it is a legitimate question.

It does you no good to just nod your head like a sheep to these responses and think ok I have 66 and the button so I call. Do you know why we are calling with 66? The why we make an action is way more important than what (how) action we make.
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05-29-2013 , 10:05 PM
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because there are exactly two hand combinations that beat us?
75 only has two combos?
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05-29-2013 , 10:23 PM
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Its hilarious that the whole post became centered around my typo lol
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05-29-2013 , 10:27 PM
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75 only has two combos?
75 and 88.
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05-29-2013 , 10:58 PM
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75 and 88.
wait what

that's 19 (16+3) total combos that beat us vs 3 combos (pocket 4s) we're ahead of
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05-29-2013 , 11:03 PM
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wait what

that's 19 (16+3) total combos that beat us vs 3 combos (pocket 4s) we're ahead of
OK, sit there and overanalyze what I said. I apologize if you are too stupid to understand the meaning of what I said.

We lose to two hands - 57 and 88. Yes, there are more than two combos of that.
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05-29-2013 , 11:07 PM
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OK, sit there and overanalyze what I said. I apologize if you are too stupid to understand the meaning of what I said.

We lose to two hands - 57 and 88. Yes, there are more than two combos of that.
can you provide an adequate range then that we're so ahead of that we're fist pump shoving? im not saying shoving isnt standard, im saying its not a fist pump

why am i stupid for discussing combinatorics? wtf
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05-29-2013 , 11:12 PM
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can you provide an adequate range then that we're so ahead of that we're fist pump shoving? im not saying shoving isnt standard, im saying its not a fist pump

why am i stupid for discussing combinatorics? wtf
because it is pretty clear i was saying you lose to 57 and 88, that you are overfocusing on the word 'combos.'

it's a freaking fistpump shove.

should i have folded 22 on a 2337J board when a guy shoves for $200-plus more on the river over my $25 bet?

we're ahead of 87, 44, 79 and overpairs on this board. yeah, i flop a set i get it in and live with the variance. and there are two diamonds out there so any number of diamond draws/combo draws.
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05-29-2013 , 11:19 PM
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because it is pretty clear i was saying you lose to 57 and 88, that you are overfocusing on the word 'combos.'

it's a freaking fistpump shove.

should i have folded 22 on a 2337J board when a guy shoves for $200-plus more on the river over my $25 bet?

we're ahead of 87, 44, 79 and overpairs on this board. yeah, i flop a set i get it in and live with the variance. and there are two diamonds out there so any number of diamond draws/combo draws.
against a lag for sure, i completely agree

but im factoring in that this guy hasnt played a hand in 2 hours and is now suddenly going nutso.. idk, i guess it doesnt matter cause the chips end up going in anyway
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05-29-2013 , 11:24 PM
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against a lag for sure, i completely agree

but im factoring in that this guy hasnt played a hand in 2 hours and is now suddenly going nutso.. idk, i guess it doesnt matter cause the chips end up going in anyway
OP says he hasn't played any big pots. it really doesn't give any indication of whether he's a LAG or a TAG or a superNIT.
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05-30-2013 , 12:55 AM
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It seems that everyone is forgetting that a FD also gets it in on a shove and is definitely raising in this situation. Lots more Axs.
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05-30-2013 , 01:22 AM
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I read the first few comments and results so kind of grunhin'

Just keep in mind he could be doing this with a pair and flush draw, gutshot and flush draw, open ended with flush draw, overs with flush draw and maybe even small over pairs or top pair. That and 6 combos of sets and 4 combos of straights. I can't wait to get my money in here.

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05-30-2013 , 01:24 AM
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because it is pretty clear i was saying you lose to 57 and 88, that you are overfocusing on the word 'combos.'

it's a freaking fistpump shove.

should i have folded 22 on a 2337J board when a guy shoves for $200-plus more on the river over my $25 bet?

we're ahead of 87, 44, 79 and overpairs on this board. yeah, i flop a set i get it in and live with the variance. and there are two diamonds out there so any number of diamond draws/combo draws.
Depending on that player and the prior action on that board your 22 looks like it could be a bluff catcher

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05-30-2013 , 01:29 AM
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Depending on that player and the prior action on that board your 22 looks like it could be a bluff catcher

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limped pot. he was on the button. ... he had raised 77 OTB before so i knew he wasn't limping 77 or JJ.
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05-30-2013 , 01:38 AM
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can you provide an adequate range then that we're so ahead of that we're fist pump shoving? im not saying shoving isnt standard, im saying its not a fist pump

why am i stupid for discussing combinatorics? wtf
We lose to - 3 combos of 88 and 4 combos of 57 (if he's only playing suited 57s).

We beat - 3 combos of 44, 1 combo of 68s, 7 combos of top pair with fd (78d - A8d). 2 combos open ended with fd (35d and 79d). 4 combos of gutshot with flush draw(A5d, K5d, A7d, K7d). 14 combos of 2 overs with a flush draw (K9d+ A9d+, Q9d+, 910d, 10Jd), and 18 combos of overpairs (99 - JJ)

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05-30-2013 , 01:45 AM
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limped pot. he was on the button. ... he had raised 77 OTB before so i knew he wasn't limping 77 or JJ.
He could have raised 77 to ISO-raise a fish otb but limped because you are a stronger player? Either way that's a sick river shove his range has a lot of 3s in it

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