Game is 1/2 NL Hold'em
Villian 1 and Villian 2 stacks are about 200, Hero stack about 300
Read on Villian 1 is calling station. Seen him chase gut shots and primary draws a few times without odds. Bets big when he gets a hand.
Read on Villian 2 is unknown. Seems tight. Have only played a couple rotations with him and he has only played a couple hands.

Villian 1 is UTG+1 calls 2
Hero on the button looks down at 78 calls 2
Villian 2 in BB checks
3 others are also in the hand, so 6 to the flop

Flop 6104

Checks around to Hero. Hero bets 8.
Villian 1 calls,
Villian 2 calls.

Turn Q

Checks around to Hero. Hero bets 30.
Villian 1 calls,
Villian 2 calls.

River 10

Checks around to Hero. What should Hero do here?

Any suggestions of better plays before the river?

I'm pretty much never betting the flop here, ever. With 5 other people in the hand, you're guaranteed at least 2 calls at a 1/2 table. And to win what, a tiny $14 dollar pot? Just check behind and hope to spike your 9.

Why bet the turn? After getting 2 calls on the flop, I'm 100% shutting down here.

Just check the river and muck your cards asap. You have nothing and beat nothing and I'd bet one of them has a 10 just waiting for you to fire again.

You described V1 as a calling station but are continually betting into him with nothing. Why? Calling stations are meant to be value bet to death when you have a hand, you're not pushing them off.

Fold pre, open fold flop or turn, fold river.

If your going to play this, raise pre. At least then you have initiative and position. You can then c-bet the flop and if called no your way behind. Turn I probably take my free card based on your description of the villains because you need fold equity to semi-bluff your weak draw. I give up on the river.

I probably should have raised Pre, but I bet to disguise my draw in case I hit. I wanted to get the pot larger so when I hit I could stack someone with a 10, which I feel like the calling station would have paid me off if either my double gutty or flush draw hits.

Don't bet into stations with 7 high, and only 4 outs to the best hand on the flop.

Check the flop. Check the turn, check the river.

I had 8 outs on the flop and 15 on the turn...

I didn't expect to have much fold equity here, but since everyone checked it to me I didn't feel like anyone had a 10, and maybe had a 10% chance to just take the pot down here. But with a disguised double gutty I felt like if I bet it here the larger pot size would give me good value if if I hit it. Implied odds for me on a call + fold equity made me think this move was +EV.

Dunno what's going on in this thread. People must not be reading the board right. Pre-flop, flop, and turn are all clearly fine.

River is close but it's probably a third barrel for me. I don't usually like bluffing into two people but I do like it here. Villain 1 has just has so much air in his range based on description. Also you are basically at the nut bottom of your range, so GT-wise you should probably be bluffing this combo if you are ever bluffing here.

You aren't playing suited connectors in a limped pot on the button? maybe my range is a little to wide here, but I feel like position + if I hit the flop hard = +EV for $2.

Even though he is a calling station the check basically told me he had nothing so I bet assuming he would fold unless he had a draw. hadn't seen the station slowplay anything the time I was at the table. Felt like I did have some fold equity on the semi-bluff.

Ya i don't get why people aren't betting the flop and turn, especially of V1 is a calling station who will pay you off if you get there, river I'm c/f tho. Think you played this hand fine

I also overlimp multiple limpers here.

I probably just check back the flop. Even though the flop is pretty bone dry, it still think it's unlikely that we're going to fold out 5 other players. I don't think a bet on this board is horrendous though. ETA: Whoops, I missed the fact that we have a double gutter instead of just a gutter; I don't mind a bet nearly as much now, as it possibly takes down the pot on this dry board, plus probably buys us a free card to the river with our decent equity now, plus builds a pot for the 1/3 times we hit by the river.

I would take my free card on the turn. The Q is a good card to barrel against tighter players because now they have even more reason to fold a weak TP / middle pair. However, we're up against 2 players, one of which is a calling station. Plus we've picked up equity and would hate to be blown off our hand. Plus, with calling station in the hand, we're going to get paid off if we hit one of our 12 outs. ETA: With all our outs and this overcard, I'd be much more for betting this turn against a single tight player; but vs 2 players including a payoff wizard, not so much.

I'm definitely giving up on the river. There's two players in the hand and no one is ever folding a T now.

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My only thought here is that maybe I should have 3 barreled on the river, considering the weakness of both my opponents on the river with check check. Wouldn't a 10 try and get some value here with a bet? How the hand played out I would have taken the pot down with a $50 or so bet on the river.

You're right on the turn here I think. Even though my hand improved on the turn. If I couldn't bet them off on the flop, I have zero fold equity on the turn bet. It also makes the check check to me on the river look super weak and would probably induce me to bet on the river to take down the pot.

What's your rationale for betting flop?

Just so everyone knows (and I missed this first time around as well), OP has flopped a double gutter with a backdoor flush draw.

Appreciate the heads up, I missed that as well. Certainly changes things.

Not sure about the guy who you quoted's rationale, but mine was I felt like I had a small% fold equity since everyone checked around to me on the button. In a multiway pot if someone had a 10 they would bet it to try and take the pot down right there and not get sucked out on in case a overcard comes. In case someone did have a 10 I also wanted to get the pot larger than $14 so when I hit I could get better value by disguising my hand. The bet also was suppose to help range my opponents, since at this point they could have any two cards with the preflop limp.

I really like the bet on the flop. You're drawing to the nuts both ways and at the very least Villain 1 will call with inferior straight draws (23, 37). I don't see why someone wouldn't lead out with a 10 here on a board this dry in a limped pot.

I like the turn bet but your sizing seems a bit large, I doubt if either Villain somehow binked QJ, KQ, AQ $30 is getting them off of it. I'd bet something around $18-$22 giving yourself a better price.

Having a plan for the river when you double barrel is crucial here. Before you bet ask yourself what cards that don't improve your hand are good for you. IMO the 10 was the perfect card to triple. If you had bet closer to half pot OTT they'd be more likely to put you on a scared 10 going for protection/value.

The pot is ~$126 (less rake) OTR so I'd bet something between $55-$75 to make it look like I was going for value, probably on the higher side if I thought Villain 2 would fold a Queen.

Good point. Being that I basically didn't think anyone had a 10 on the flop, i should have repped the 10 and played it accordingly. Just needed to grow some balls on the river. After the hand the little 100 lb female asian dealer actually looked at me and gave me a wow you're stupid look since I missed the river bet lol.

This is one of the rare times where I triple barrel bluff. When last to act OTF I'll take a cheap stab, I'll bet again OTT when I pick up a good amount of equity knowing when I bet the turn I have to bet the river when I have no showdown value (dependant on the run out of course).

Do not make this a regular play at 1/2. You simply won't get enough folds to make the play profitable. Stay value driven and punish calling stations.