1/2, been playing for 3 hours, have a tight, solid image, 500$

Villain (320$) is sitting 2 seats to my left, I haven't been paying much attention to him because he's playing quite tight. His bet sizing and post flop tendencies seem to be a bit weak though -- he doesn't seem to play very good, just tight. Folds pre a lot, limps in often enough, rarely raises, and when he raises, always raises to 7, no matter what. Don't recall seeing him show anything down, however, so any reads I have on him are pretty vague.

Several limpers, hero limps behind with 67o

Villain raises to 7 from button, everyone call.

Flop (35) A67

Checks to me, I saw a reaction from villain on seeing the flop -- it looks like it hit him -- so I'm deciding to go for a x/raise.

I check, V bets 20, folds to me, I raise to 60. Villain quickly raises to 130, hero... shoves for the remaining 200 or so?

Villain's preflop raising range is tight -- good pocket pairs and strong aces, I'm guessing. He flop 3-betting range then is basically AA and (hopefully) AK. I don't really see how I'm ever folding (right?), I basically have the second nuts and can't exclude AK from his range, so it's either

1. shove now and hope AK will call
2. call and check turn, let him keep betting safe turns to charge my "draw"
3. call and ... evaluate turn?

What do you all think.

My limping range is pretty wide and even I am not limping 67o here, so I think a fold pre would be ideal.

Once we get here, I'm certainly not folding flop. I think his reraise is pretty strong but his value range here is so small that I am probably calling. Don't see the point in GII on the flop, I think he often folds AK to us when we act that strong. If a club comes, I'd probably lead and if the turn blanks it is fine to c/GII.

I understand that the spot sucks but if we are playing 67o we gotta be comfortable not having the nuts a lot.

Really? 67o seems fine to be limping behind several others, if you're limping range is "wide", then what are you limping? Suited and offsuited connectors, suited gappers, small pocket pairs, maybe some weak broadways (TJ,JQ or so on) -- this is all I'm really limping, and only when the position and circumstances dictate -- which isn't really all that often, to be honest.

Limping is fine.

Call the 3b. Don't want to GII otf.

Lead club and blank turns.

Probably gii ott or otr as long as no A, K or Q drops.

I think we need to just shove the flop.

Turn clubs are not good for action vs AK, and with the Ac on the board, villain only has a few combos of AxKc, i.e. AK hands that also improve to flush draws on turn clubs. So raise/calling flop looking to lead turns is going to let villain off the hook with AK way too often.

Also, to Lapi's point, turn cards like A or K can improve villain when he has exactly AK. Once we consider all the bad turn cards - cards that hurt action or improve villain - we're looking at something like like 12-15 cards. All the straightening cards might also get us a fold on turns. We're likely looking at around half the deck on the turn that is not good for hero.

Seems silly to let another card fall oop.

If villain is really folding AK here... well, wow, because his range is probably something like AA, AK. That's 3 combos of AA and 12 of AK. So if he's folding AK, hero should bluff here likely crazy since V folds 12/15 = 80%. Bluff 4-bet shoving flops when hero has air with the plan to get villains to fold TPTK with AK is not the way to make money at this game... and generally the opposite holds true (i.e. value shipping here gets plenty of calls).

Fold pre, get it in now.

By the way, once we shove and it gets back to villain, villain is getting 2.5:1 on a call.

Villain would have the correct equity to call with AK even if we flip over our cards.

I really doubt he's folding.

But if he does fold and abandons his equity in the pot, that's not even a bad thing.

I think you should call the flop reraise then bet on the turn as long as it doesn't bring an Ace, King, or Queen.

I truely believe that he has AK. Nits like that, in my experience can't fold TPTK and he'll act shocked when you flip over a two pair of 6,7.

If you wanted to push otf or ott or otr as long as those three cards don't come I don't see a nit folding AK here ever.

I'll disagree with most of the posters in the thread and say this is an easy shove on the flop.

Villain may tank, but it's going to be very tough to fold AK here. The board is wet (straight and flush draws) which is great for you as you can rep a draw instead of bottom two.

In addition, any club or potentially straight card that comes on the turn could kill your action. No need to get fancy here. If you had 9c8c you'd shove the flop, so shove the flop when you bink the two pair.

I agree you should shove the flop. I doubt villain has a better two pair. It's unclear how many A6s/A7s combos there are and they don't fit villain's preflop raising range. You block most of the 66/77 combos. You're likely up against 12 AK combos and 5 set combos with about 53% equity.

I could find a fold if he's not the type who overvalues TPTK and fears sets when raised. I'm not sure you have enough information on villain to make that decision.

Shove the flop. Flush and straight draws provide cover and V getting decent odds to call can convince himself you're on a draw.

I'd fold vs this villain. Is this guy really 3betting on the flop w/ tptk? Just doesn't seem like the type with the given description. I think A7 or A6 is a real possibility, along with AA. Villain has leverage on us, and once he makes it $130, its a "lots to lose and little to gain" situation for me. I likely let this go unless there's a read that hes only tight preflop and not postflop

Fold pre. OTF I get it in. If you believe his range is truly AA/AK, then you have great equity vs that range and most importantly to me is the fact that you can rep bluffs with a shove here. Tight V's often won't let go of AK here thinking you are drawing. If you weren't able to rep any bluffs, then I think it's much different because then he can play perfectly. I also don't really see him essentially min raising with top set to let you draw cheap. Smells like a "let's see if he has a set" raise, which I think happens often in live low stakes.

Hey, why are you folding pre? I'm in late position, limped behind a few limpers, and then threw in 5 more with great odds (and implied odds), with position on 3 of the 4 other players in the pot.

67o seems a fine hand to be limping in this spot.

I don't like ck-flop whatsoever vs passive.

76o is pretty much a trash hand here.

- You're not in the best position or even the second-best position.
- You're not suited, making it difficult to make flushes or barrel with equity.
- Your cards are low and your one-pair hands aren't worth anything/much.
- Straightening boards for 76 rarely give others second-best hands.
- Since you're low, connected, and unsuited, it's difficult to make the nuts (you might make a straight, but often it's not the nuts... and when you do make a straight, even a nut straight, there can be flush possibilities... and your straights are obvious with 76 like on a 345 board, etc).

Key advantages - high card value, position, and suitedness - are lacking.

Yes, it's a few bucks, but just folding is the optimal play.

That said, sure, calling isn't the worst thing ever.

Okay, sure, these are fair points, but I'm still fine with limping in here pre. I also do have the second best position (only the button has position on me after CO folds).

And there are lots of flops where I can get paid off.

345, 458, 589, 67x, 66x, 77x

The field is just generally weak, and I feel I'm much more likely to be making money than losing money in spots where I've made a hand. In this particular hand villain did have AA, but if he had AK, or say he had an overpair on a different board, or TPTK –– I would have won a nice pot. I'll lose to sets, but otherwise I'll often be able to get away from my hand when I'm beat. I'm just okay with limping in pre. But folding is also fine, sure, and in a vacuum better, sure I agree.

Maybe limp-c down to 23o as well since you get paid off on A45, 456, 23x, 22x, 33x... How far are you willing to take your line of logic?

don't like the c/r here.Anything calling is going to have quite a bit of equity. We don't need to go for thin value on every street. It's not limit Holdem.

As played I think we flat and jam safe turns. If he wants to get the rest in now we are almost certainly beat