First time back in a 2/5 in almost a year (life + running bad). Been in the game about 2 orbits. As I was sitting down the villain had just over-called $400+ allin with JTo on a J83r flop and rivered a J winning a $1,200+ pot. Villain has played several hands since then, putting in modest action.

Hero: TT in BB, ~$800
Villain: ~$1,400

Villain calls, 3 other callers, Hero raises to $25 (about standard for the table).
Villain calls, one other caller

Pot: $80 (after drop)
Flop: KQTr

Hero bets $50, Villain raises to $150, folded to hero who calls.

Pot $380, Turn: 3c
Hero checks, Villain checks (not what I expected).

River: 9d (and I catch villain glancing at his chips)

Hero checks, Villain bets $250.

Hero?

He is a LAG and he open limped preflop?

River I think is a good spot to blocker bet 1/4th pot and fold to a raise. As played check/fold, he's never valuing worse for this amount and our hand isn't quite strong enough to require us to bluff catch.

Raise larger pre.

I would 3bet on the flop to about $300. Expect to get called here by plenty of 2 pair or pair + SD hands by this type of player.

As played, yeah check/fold. Sucks but he probably get there with that sizing.

Raise larger pre.

Given my position and the limited info I have on the game, what sizing would you suggest and why? Also, how would you suggest following up?

alot bigger pre. 40 at least

I agree with bigger pre and then bigger on a flop like this. As played, unless you've seen him bluff, or he is getting way out of line, I think it's a fold. 4-straight boards when you have a set are tricky, but I think I can give this one up. That tell is a pretty good one as well, and can be the tipping point.

I would just shove flop. Call riv.

i don't know how we don't re-pop the flop given your noted hand history.

If hes stacking off with top pair rubbish kicker he's doing the same with pairs, two pairs, pair + draw's here... which is basically everything he's raising the flop with.

By the looks of it he got there too. I bet all the tea in china its KJ or QJ here and we would have loved to get the money in on the flop. 1000 times out of 1000 against this player

'Re-Pop the Flop' would also make a great t-shirt

He got all in with TPGK on the flop, you have a set and he's raising you on a board where he can easily have TP or 2P. Gotta raise. A shove isn't out of the question but is obviously big. Raise to like $385 and shove nearly all turns. Also I agree with others unless you want to go all GG and play your tens for set value you've got to raise bigger pre. There's 4 limpers and you're gonna be OOP you should be making it 50 at least imo.

As played it's pretty gross. You're underrepped and he clearly overvalues pairs so I guess call? Not loving it though.

PF raise is much too small it's basically a sweetener with all the limpers. I would raise to 50 from the BB.

I don't mind getting the money in otf. Raise him for sure, as two pair would likely call. Obv we can discount higher sets and even AJ since the LAG limped pre.

Not sure I shove flop, but I definitely b/3! there.

I call river as well.

Yeah gotta reraise flop here. If he has a better set so be it, and you have some outs against a made straight.

The trouble is that a normal 3b to say 450 gives him too good odds when you shove turn. I think the option is min bet to 300 and shove nearly every turn, but I think I just get it in now and hope he calls it off with 2 pair or some combo draw.

Also taking it down is hardly a disaster on this dangerous of a board.

The tell is only as good as the player. This same guy thought JTo was worth $400 pre, so I could definitely believe that he thinks KQ, KT, QT are potentially something to be excited about in this spot against what he might read as a hero AA, AK, AQ if he's even bothering to think about that. As played I think it's a sigh call on the end but am firmly in agreement that you've got to bet a lot bigger pre and follow up with a large flop bet/jam to avoid this situation. Also considering the JTo hand, I think you can get away with raising even bigger than some have suggested which would make it an easier flop shove, say $70 which would go to the flop with $155 pot making our bet around $100 making his bet roughly $300 and an easy 4! jam. Also has previously stated, if he folds to your jam, that's a pretty nice pot to pick up with no sweat on an incredibly scary board.

Standard raise in these live 2/5 games is 15-25, add 5 for each limper, and 5 for oop. In looser games, I use the 20 sizing and in crazy games tend to use 25 (and bigger is fine if the conditions are right.). With limited/no reads other than that there's a bunch of limpers:

20 + 5 (oop) + 5*4 (5 for each limper) = 45. Wouldn't hate anything between 40 and 60.

It's hard to say how we will proceed because we expect more folds - it's much less likely we go so massively multi way. I will oblige anyway. When we flop this well, against this pool, we can bet 60-85% on flop, call any single raise that comes in, and evaluate if action gets heavier than that. Depending on where the raise comes from and stack size(s) , jamming flop is also an option. If V can be value betting worse, which they can here, we have to go with it.