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Bottom set facing 4bet shove OTF Bottom set facing 4bet shove OTF

04-10-2018 , 08:55 PM
Game is 1/2 NL at a local casino . I've been playing for about an hour and a half and was accused of "bullying the table" by an omc due to my aggression, the truth is I sat down and got some hands and was doing the limp call passive deal that I suppose they're used to. I bring this up because it seems I have a LAG image during this session. OTTH

Hero in the hijack with 22:spade($150.00 eff): utg (200.00 eff) opens to 10, hero flat button flats and SB flats. Button is an MAWG wearing sunglasses who has this I want to be young swag about him( has me covered). He's on the lag side, the SB is a younger women who I saw earlier limp jacks and is loose passive pre, will fire away post but shuts down to big raises( 250 eff) the other villain isn't too relevant.

Flop 234 (pot $40)

SB leads with $20
Utg folds
Hero raises $60(psb)
Btn shoves

SB snap folds

Hero???
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04-10-2018 , 09:01 PM
I should add villain didn't snap shove, he hesitated and had this sort of confused and not sure what to do look prior to shoving
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04-10-2018 , 09:10 PM
call and if you lose re-check your cards 10+ times, sigh 4+ times, then helicopter fold your hand
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04-10-2018 , 09:17 PM
you have well over half your stack in already. call.
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04-10-2018 , 09:20 PM
Effective stacks are the smallest relevant stack in the hand, you in this case, at $150. There's $270 in the pot and it's $90 back to you. He can show you the nut flush or straight and you have to call. Only way you can fold is if you see a bigger set or straight flush.

I'm calling this off everytime. Also, your raise on the flop is not a pot sized raise. With $60 in the pot facing a $20 bet, a pot sized raised is $100. $60 + your $20 "call" = $80 pot, so $80 more, or $100 total, is a pot sized raise.
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04-10-2018 , 09:23 PM
That’s a 3bet above but you’re not folding for $80 more.
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04-10-2018 , 09:30 PM
Buy-in deeper, fold pre, raise bigger otf, and well ya cant fold now unless he shows you 33/44.
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04-11-2018 , 01:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by access denied
you have well over half your stack in already. call.
6-year wait to drop this nugget as your first post huh?
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04-11-2018 , 01:46 AM
its a 3 bet shove, not a 4 bet shove. And he almost always has clubs here. But for that price, you are getting direct odds to call. Its a no brainer call and hope that you fill up.
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04-11-2018 , 09:49 AM
Hero called it off villain rolls over 4 3 for two pair. Turn is a 5 river 5 so hero filled up but didn't need to.
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04-11-2018 , 09:53 AM
call the 3bet shove your not deep enough to even think about folding
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04-11-2018 , 09:56 AM
Seems like a pretty easy call.
Even if V has a baby flush, or over pair with a Club - you have a redraw to a Full House.

If you lose - well that's poker.
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04-11-2018 , 11:18 AM
Flat the flop. Overplaying bottom set on this board you’re going to be in trouble a lot when facing heat. Turns out you ran into an outlier this time.
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04-11-2018 , 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by access denied
you have well over half your stack in already. call.
This
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04-12-2018 , 08:24 PM
To completely honest you played it perfectly pre flop on tht board this may be my inner nit coming out but Deoensing on how strong you think your poor gs are given their range either make a nice over bet abt 75-80%of your stack or just flat and see we're it goes maybe make a hero fold .... your 3 bet is too small anyway your getting called by pretty much anything thAt raises you their
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