Hero ($200) middle 1 position: 20s African American female. This is new table And will be the 3rd hand, 1st big pot on the table.

Villain ($500)middle position 2. Older 30s Caucasian female. Have not seen her play before. New table

Hero has A A no limpers, makes it $12
Villain calls immediately.

Flop ($27) is J 9 2 RAINBOW

Hero makes it $25. Villain calls super fast.
( Fast as in she threw $25 in before hero threw her bet in-that fast)
Turn J

Hero checks, villain makes it $60. Hero??

Bet the turn and if raised, you can likely fold. By checking, u basically announce "I don't have a Jack" so V can bet any two cards here as a free-roll bluff.

Really hate this pot sized flop bet. Your stack is only 200, so if you bet 15 flop, 40 on a safe turn, then you'll have a little under a pot sized bet behind to jam the river. In other words, you don't have to pot the flop to win your opponent's stack.

As played, I'd check/call turn and check/call river and be very unhappy about it.

But you can call those bluffs.

And Villain can call your turn bet with a Jack, so then you're in the same spot on the river.

This is actually the perfect bluff catcher because we beat everything worse than a Jack that she could be turning into a bluff and we don't block any draws.

This is true, but it is 1/2 and a 30's caucasian woman. Outside of Java, how often do you think it will be a bluff?

Don't have good demographic reads, so no idea. White ladies on TV bluff all the time, though.

If your read is reliable at low stakes, then I guess bet/fold turn and... check/fold river? Man, that's just so ugly though. Super exploitable.

1) Pot sized bets on these types of Boards are great at 1/2. V is either calling or not calling, so why not get the most out of them now? Typically 1/2 players view Flop pot bets as weakness or 'scared' bets, not value bets. (Why would she bet some much with a good hand?)
2) What/who is calling a pot sized River jam? It's too late unless Hero is beat. 1/2 players hate to call bets over $100 unless they are 'nutted' in their mind ... two pair plus IMO.

3) The quick call on Flop is good IMO, typically a drawing type of hand or 99-QQ/AK-AT/A9s that doesn't take much thought to call with.
4) Was it a quick bet on the Turn? Yes, it could be Jx but typically a player will pause to calculate bet/pot/stacks with a super strong hand. They may think it's less likely that you have a Jack/stronger hand as well with your checking into them. Quick bets are usually 'misses' or 'status unchanged' bets.

I agree that I'm calling here on the Turn most of the time. I'm still giving this V 99+ (maybe a stretch) ... but there are plenty of KK-QQ bettors out there that don't expect you to handle AA this way. In a stereotypical fashion you might expect a woman to have a small range, but that still includes KK-QQ.

Pretty much check/calling the River as well unless there is some super strong live tells going on. I certainly 'could' fold some of the time .. need to see the action to be sure. GL

Ok, so you should just triple barrel every T, J, Q, K, or A high flop with air. They call the flop with garbage, so by the river, they have two pair+ less than 25% of the time.

Bad live players folding TP for <= 100bb does not square with my experience.

Maybe you are right...check/call turn might be best as it will look super strong so we can check the river and without a Jack most villains will check behind. Once that turn comes not sure we are getting 3 streets from anything we beat anyway. You convinced me.

shorn7 is right that I would have bet the turn with almost my entire range if H checked to me. However, I rarely snap-call, and I wouldn't call a pot-size bet with too much on the flop, so not sure what's going on. I wonder how fast she bet the turn?

That said, I'm still a non-believer unless I get a live tell/read/feel and I call the turn and evaluate the river based on her play and my live feel/read.

It looks as if V is not a rec player considering she bought in deep, unless H is new to table and V isn't -- or V came from another table?

That's the opposite of what I think. Check/call one street is the WORST line in my opinion.

In altantic city, the poker room here the max buy in is $500. Villain did not come from the different table, she just bought in for $500. And for the turn she verbally said $60 before putting her chips in the pot, which contrast her flop action in quickly throwing money in the pot before hero did her action.

So you are check/calling turn and leading river? Or are you just going into c/c mode after flop and hoping AA is good at sd because we only have 100 BB.

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Got it thx. Brain dead today

This. Although if I think V is super-tight/passive, I can get on board a check/fold to a decent sized bet.

Not sure what you're saying here .. we have AA, not air. I'm saying that on this type of Board I'm expecting 'most' 1/2 players to call 'any' size bet if they are going to continue, so why not get the most out of them while they are in a calling mood? Thus making it easier to get their chips on Turn/River ... where they are beat 75% of the time.

I tend to agree with you as long as the Board suggests I was value betting a wider range on Flop and Turn that includes a bunch of draws. This Board is an all or nothing spot when we go small, small, jam. I must see a lot more folds than you do in these spots .. which is possible. GL

At 1/2 or 1/3, if I think my opponent is passive/average, I'm going to b/b/b here but I'm going to bet small on the turn/river as blockers. A truly passive player at these limits never raises over blocker bets in this situation without a full-house or AJ (MAYBE KJ but doubtful) but I think they'll always bet the turn with Jx if checked to.

As played, I'd bet $30 on the turn and probably the same $30 on the river, up to maybe $40. Most V's are going to just call behind even on a small river bet with J7/J8/J9/JT/QJ hands.

I have no idea what kind of game 30s white women play.. I've seen some 30 year old asian women call down with J3o bottom pair on like KJ843 type boards before. I don't like checking turn, J improves us, think of how few J combos there are now - it's really hard to make trips. I hate calling turn.. we're committed and we're playing our hand so face up it's sad. I'm shoving now. The ol' 'i have AJ and just binked' line.

lol, weren't you just in the other thread complaining about bad advice? Your plan is to check/raise ACES to make it look like AJ, hoping that she folds... trips??? The "J improves us," some galactic brain **** right here.

Flop bet is too big. $15.

Turn we should be bet/folding for $30-35. LLSNL villains won't flat call Jx here often enough like they should, so you'll know if you're beat. Plus this way we get value from straight draws or TT type hands.

AP, can't fold, but you made this worse on yourself than you should have. Call and then c/c river, I guess. You'd be much less unhappy about this if you'd sized correctly.

Wut

Yeah I'm lost here. You are not getting anyone to fold a J here. How does the J improve us? Yes it means less combos of J, but the combos that had a J used to all be behind us and have catapulted ahead of us.

IMO the turbosnap call is a technique some regs use to try to slow down the aggressor, like my hand is such a lock you can just go ahead and fire 3 barrels buddy and I’ll call it off. I actually give less credence to a TP hand here with that action.

I’m cool with either bet/fold or calling it off here as long as we know we are encouraging her to turn her hand into a bluff by checking.