1/3 live, 100min-300max

Been playing at this table maybe an hour before this hand happens. Hero's image is prolly slight loose/aggro; thinking player. Anyone watching (Vil1 qualifies) probably realizes hero is thinking player capable of value betting thinly on the river OOP.

MP open limps. MP/Vil1 is very weak/tight. Seems to be trying to grind out a living, pays attention to hands he's not involved in.

Hero raises A4ss to $15 (effective button).

BB (Vil2) and MPlimper (Vil1) call.

**as BB (Vil2) was debating to call or fold he held his cards above table and I saw a high spotted club (this is extra sweet because BB is in seat2, Hero is in seat8).

3 handed, pot $46, flop KQ3r.

Checks to hero who bets $25, BB and MP call.

3 handed, pot 121, turn Kc (2 clubs on board).

Checks to hero... hero has $175 back, covers BB, MP covers BB and hero; hero...?

When turn is Kc and I know BB has a high spotted club, I'm thinking chances of him having KX go way down. My concern here is the MP villain. WTF, limp/calls preflop, then OVERCALLS KQ3r? While BB can peel super lite OOP here, MP is not; he's nitty. But this turn card is soooooo good. My gut tells me MP prolly has a PP like TT or JJ, but I don't think he overcalls the flop with either holding so I really don't know if I should barrel or not.

Given our villains and relative knowledge of 50% BB holding, what do you all think? Fire or give up?

Give up! MP overcalling on this rainbow flop seems strong. He has a king here a decent amount of the time maybe even KQ or 33 dont think he overcalls wide here.
What you beat here is just TJ and some weird Qx hands. But i dont think TJ is in his range to much giving that hes tight and limp calls preflop. Looks more like pocket or strong boardcards. Cause hes folding all his non set pockets on the flop hes calling the turn way to often to make a bluff profitable. And BB can also still have sth. The Kc here is not a good card 4 you to barrel here. I would prefer a Q or an A. But in gerneral on the turn its just time to give up.

With only one limper to us in LP I'm also typically raising any hand I'm playing.

I would mention to the dealer/V2 that I think I saw his card and then tell him what I think it is if asked.

If we think V2 has a high card (you're saying you saw paint in V2's exposed card, right?) then I would not be cbetting this flop. Otherwise, I think it's an ok flop to cbet ~1/2 pot 3way as small pairs / suited connectors will give up and we'll scoop the pot. Once we're called in two spots (plus knowing V2 probably has a K/Q), I'm done with the hand.

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White flag!!!!!!! Your betting into a villain with kx half the time, which is more than enough to be bad especially with these stacks.

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give up, as a general rule don't double barrel when the top card paired on the turn.

OP, why do you think this is a good turn card to barrel?

High spotted club means 7-T. Paint is paint; it wasn't paint. So there is a 50% chance BB wiffed flop. Not to mention, this dude clearly showed us preflop he was making a speculative call. 2 broadways shouldn't hit whatever MP limp/calls with pre flop, so yeah, I think this is a great spot to cbet with PF betting lead when checked to. That's why I was really surprised when I got called by both players.

Why do I think the king is a good barrel card? Because unless MP has queens full specifically, I'm not sure how either player really has a king in their hand. I guess MP could have limp/called with AK pre flop, and possibly overcalled flop. I flat out do not think the BB has Kx here. He could have Qx or maybe JT. In short, when the king comes on the turn, I was already repping that on the flop and now the chances of someone have what I was representing go way down.

I just wanted to see what the majority of people think about double barreling in this spot. FWIW, I was so bewildered by MP overcalling flop I elected to just give it up.

Prior to reading post: White Flag
After reading post: White Flag.
This is 1/3 right? White Flag.

If raising preflop compels you to c-bet this flop then you should be limping here always.