Playing 2/5. 2nd orbit at table so I don't know much. Limpy table preflop.

Villain1 $800. Unknown older white guy. Has not raised and has not played many hands.
Villain2 $1200. Regular I play occasionally. Tends toward LAG, likes to sweeten pots with small raises
Hero $980. Nothing happening yet.

V1 limps EP
Hero limps 77 in MP
couple more limps
V2 raises to $20 in LP
V1 calls
Hero calls
Random fish calls.

$100 in pot
Flop is KQ7 rainbow
V1 checks
Hero checks
Fish checks
V2 checks

V2 will bet this too often so I'm planning to check/raise flop. It checks around, which is annoying.

$100 in pot
Board is KQ7A
V1 checks
Hero bets $50
Fish folds
V2 folds
V1 calls

Have to bet turn. It's not a super pretty board but there are lots of worse that can call.

$200 in pot
Board is KQ7AK
V1 bets $150
Hero?

instaflat. you are way underrepped, but he is never going to call you with worse if you raise

^What? How about all the Kx that he peels turn with for half a pot bet when closing the action? Just because he mostly folded for a couple of hands were gonna assume an OMC? I make it 450-500 here all day.

Raise pre and/or lead flop imo. X/raising seems a bit much when 4handed on such a dry board.

Given his stack size I just jam for value. If he chose a more polarized size I'd just flat. Pretty unlikely he has KQ or AK given his turn check.

Definitely a 'where's the rest of the pot' hand once you both turn over boats, but you played it fine against quiet old guy betting huge on the river. I mean, it's the type of action/board where even trip kings doesn't bet this much, but hopefully that's exactly what he has. Call.

I'd be donking this flop into multiple opponents with JT/Kx/Qx/gutshots all likely holdings.

Raising river. You can get called by slowplayed JT and Kx. If he has KQ oh well. I'd go $375.

Older guy playing few hands can easily limp all the broadways here. I just flat.

I'd raise if I know V is the type to value bet thin. Otherwise I'm just flatting this from an unknown old guy. So many players won't lead the river without the absolute nuts that it's not worth it to raise.

Remember that our villains are way fishier than we are and don't think about the game the same way. They don't understand thin value, but they do remember all those times they had a strong hand on the river and ran into a stronger one.

Really hard for him to call a raise with worse. He might call with a K, but what K does he have that you beat besides KJ? He should have donked flop or turn with two pair or a straight, but that doesn't mean he always will.

In game, I get MUBSY and call.

+1

I'm subject to the Zeebo theory and not folding. However, nothing can call a raise that we beat. Expect to lose a lot. Don't plan to show when he turns over a bigger boat.

V hand seems more in the AX range given that line. Could he be trying to get Hero off a chop? Unknown.

$580 effective remaining. Tempted to min-raise, say $325, but is it worth re-opening to a range most of which not likely calling a raise. Hard to believe KQ taking this line.

If willing to call a 3b shove, raise, otherwise I’d lean toward a flat.

I think it looks more like V has Kx. Like KT or KJ. He limp/calls pre what a lot of passive old men do. Checks otf to pfr. Checks again ott to the pfr when the ace hits. X/c 1/2 pot with his pair and maybe GS and leads river putting hero on an ace.

I think raise/folding to like 350-400 would be a good option

I flatted and villain showed AK. In another hour or so I could have gotten away from this because this villain was very tight/passive was never donking river without a boat.

I posted this mostly because I wanted to check if anybody was thinking of folding. I'm glad to see that nobody took that line. Even the ones suspicious of the river bet felt a straight or KX was too likely to fold against an unknown.

pot flop
pot turn

Passive old guys don't suddenly bet 3/4 pot on the river with less than a boat.

These guys make my blood boil. Especially when I pay them off. :/

Thats not true in my experience