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Originally Posted by Howard2018
Anyway, in the moment I felt like I could induce a fold, but now I'm thinking this is the type of hand I should be looking to bet less and try to get more showdown value with? I hate the idea of never betting these types of hands though -- best play here probably to check back on river and hope 88 is good and save myself 60 bucks?
In addition to what Garick said about a bluff not working, the concept you mentioned in your OP definitely applies here.
When Villain calls $30 on the turn, I think there could easily be some hands that 88 can beat. For example, you have a pair and a gutshot, and it's possible that sometimes Villain could have the same. Meaning, I expect Villain might at least sometimes call with hands like 77/86/76/75.
Since you beat all those hands on the river, this hand makes for a better check-back hand than if you couldn't beat those hands. And if you will have worse hands in your range, you'd prefer to bluff with those hands than with 88. That's because when you bet and Villain folds the above range on the river, you don't make any extra profit with 88 but you would if you had something like 44.
But the primary concern is Garick's point that you probably don't have a profitable bluff with either hand.