1-2 NL. Villain is a LAGish player, 30-something British guy. He’s been calling pre kind of wide. I saw him call $10-12 preflop raises with hands like 47s and KT off. I’ve also seen him take shots at multi-way pots in position when checked to. In this hand villain is on the button, $200 effective stacks.

Hero is in sb with 57 off. There’s a straddle on. 4 limpers to me, and I limp. Bb lumps and straddler checks. Roughly $30 in the pot.

Flop comes 46T rainbow. I check. It checks around to the villain who bets 12. I think his range is super wide here. I check-raise to 35, thinking anyone with a single pair will fold, and villain will be folding a lot as well. Everyone folds to V, who calls. $100 now in the pot. Now I put his range on top pair, 78 for the double-gutter, and sets and two-pair. Nearly certain he would have raised JJ+ pre. I’m also discounting monsters because he’s likely to 3bet me instead of call. So most likely hands are top pair and 78.

Turn comes a 4. I briefly think about firing another barrel, but I actually think checking here looks stronger...would feel like i turned a boat. And I think he’s checking back too-pair which gives me a free draw, and there’s a lot of rivers I can bluff. So I check and V checks behind.

River comes a King, no flush comes in. Hero...?


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Folds pf.

75o is a junk hand and you are out of position. Nobody is committed to the pot so even if you hit the flop hard (25:1 against), you're not likely to get paid.

On the flop, your range is 2 pair, sets, 75 or 87. Nothing else is going to x/r. The fact is that when the villain calls your raise, he's stating he has a good hand. Your check on the turn looks weak, not strong. If he's a bad player, he's going to get sticky with his now 2 pair minimum or better. If he's a good player, he'll realize that your relative position really hasn't change. If you were worried about chasing him out, you wouldn't have raised on the flop.

The only bluff size you have is a pot sized bet or bigger. Since you have no reads, you're just gambling. It could work. I prefer to bluff when I think it should work.

I don't mind the limp here but I'd prefer that we're deeper, when you play a hand like 75o OOP you're basically just looking to drill the nut straight and stack an unsuspecting opponent. At 100BB it's a bit too loose.

T I actually prefer a small lead here, you've already v-raised flop so if he's got you on a set there it's not as though the board pairing changes things a ton. You can control the pot and get away from it if he raises big, might even get him to lay some hands down. Against a LAG player I'm not sure he's going to read a check on T as strong.

AP R you have to fire, you're at the bottom of your range, he checked back the turn and if he had a hand like a boat he's definitely setting up for a river AI with at least some kind of bet on the T.

Turn lead makes sense...check was probably bad. Pre call was probably bad too. If it wasn’t straddled do you call it pre?


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Do u really think someone believes yohre going to check raise a super dry flop multiway to damn near 3x after flopping a hand as strong as a set?

Im really confused about your logic

I definitely think that. It would be a huge mistake NOT to check raise with a set here. A straddled pot that was limped in 7 ways? If I just call with a set here, I’m letting 5 people behind me call 12 into 56 with all sorts of potential straight draws. Not to mention the fact that I want to start building a pot now to get stacks in by many rivers.

So a check-raise looks very strong, like a set or two-pair.


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+1 to Venice

Preflop is awful
Flop I actually don't like a raise. We have slam dunk call at this sizing. With better chances to bluff on later streets.

Turn I am firing a second shell. Continue with our story. We still have equity and some fold equity yet.

You could be right about calling instead of raising the flop. I guess especially played so multi-way, increases the chance someone has flopped a set and is just waiting for someone to raise it up.

I agree that the pre call is not great, but to say it’s awful is a bit hyperbolic, especially in this particular case where the two players to my left are both passive and unlikely to raise. I have to call $3 into a $30 pot. It’s pretty tough for a call to ever be awful when you’re getting 10 to 1.

Out of curiosity, what is the bottom of your calling range here?


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Preflop I don't care about the pot odds. Fact that we are OOP with 7-5. Makes it really unlikely to make best hand. When we do we rarely have nuts. But it makes a lot of really tough spots postflop.

Bottom of my range would be any suited 1 gappers, and 89o. 10-8o.

Granted I have 2 major leaks.

1 is playing limped pots (which I rarely do).
Other not c betting enough

+1 to fold preflop. With the straddle on you dont get enough discount. It is bad hand and you are in the worst position plus you have not shown any initiative. Id actually rather raise this with a disguised hand here, but it would depend on the table. Both raising and folding are better than calling IMO.
Flop is ok, calling is also ok multiway.

OTT I dont understand your logic. Betting always looks stronger than checking there. You're saying that would CR a set but then slowdown when you boat up. Youre not gonna trap anyone with half a brain like that.

As played I dont mind a barrel on the river depending on V

I agree with pretty much everyone that a check on the turn was bad. Should have bet again. My logic in game was that he would check behind his top pairs most of the time and I could chase my straight for free. And then I could barrel big on the river and most players are folding.

But as it played out, river came a K. I fired $60 into a $100. Way too small. I should have made a pot-sized bet. But my mistake was rewarded in this one instance when he shoves on me, of course I fold, and he shows quad 4s to take the high-hand jackpot.


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Also, FWWM, I know I made mistakes in this hand. I posted it to hear others’ advice and try to improve my game, as most of us are trying to do. Not a huge deal, but I don’t think it’s helpful to insult a poster by saying they have half a brain. IMO goes against the spirit of this forum.


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Oh, I just read that, I did not mean to insult you. I was talking about your opposition, but anyways, I apologize if it was too strong with the wording. I am the first to admit that sometimes I play hands terribly myself, see one of my recent threads, cheers.