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09-13-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
That's interesting, since according to PS it is a top 20% hand.

But maybe that's not strong enough to open 6-handed?
I think what I meant by "it depends on your style of play" was "it depends on your style of play." Sorry for the confusion.

All people don't fold K9s.

Your question was whether or not people fold K9s UTG. Yes. All the time. Do you frequently find your UTG opening range at or above 20%? Wouldn't that mean you were somewhere around 100% button opens? Idk. It's not like it's mandatory. I'd open K9s before a9o. Does that help?
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09-13-2018 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Havick
I think what I meant by "it depends on your style of play" was "it depends on your style of play." Sorry for the confusion.

All people don't fold K9s.

Your question was whether or not people fold K9s UTG. Yes. All the time. Do you frequently find your UTG opening range at or above 20%? Wouldn't that mean you were somewhere around 100% button opens? Idk. It's not like it's mandatory. I'd open K9s before a9o. Does that help?
Wtf, dude?

I wasn't being being sarcastic or trolling in my last post. Chill out.
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09-13-2018 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
Wtf, dude?

I wasn't being being sarcastic or trolling in my last post. Chill out.
Apologies then,I misunderstood

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09-14-2018 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
I was going to say I feel like every street is wrong including not folding pre. I would say fold pre, check flop, call turn, and fold river. I think it's madness to bluff catch here without some insanely strong read.
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Putting in $600 with K high isn't necessary in live cash games even if you have a decent read (you don't)
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09-14-2018 , 04:27 AM
Pre is certainly not bad.

Flop is fine.
Turn would c/c, but I can understand your reasoning for c/shoving, sizing tells are mostly real, and he is unlikely to have a superstrong hand here due to lack of 2pair combinations and sizing. Without stronger history on the sizing tell, I would c/c though.

If raising, I don´t understand leaving 165 behind at all, and this is by far the most illogical decision in the hand.

River play, I´m pretty sure you called and won, but it´s the worst possible option. Next time he shows you A2hh and you feel like an idiot for not shoving.
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09-14-2018 , 01:05 PM
just rip the turn
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09-14-2018 , 04:33 PM
I mean fold pre if you are a nit...otherwise opening with this hand from MP-BTN is standard.

I don't mind the thought process or the play actually as I do think his turn bet sizing smells weak, almost kind of like a showdown type hand that will most often check behind OTR. But I would either fold or shove the turn...YOUR sizing there is odd as it just leaves with a really awkward stack for the river. I mean, even he has a hand as strong as QQ, you have pretty good equity so might as well just rip it in there.
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09-15-2018 , 07:47 PM
i just call the turn - he gives you direct odds to try and hit.

If you want to raise at any point in the hands it should be the flop where your equity is the highest. Raising turn vs weak passive live fish is a recipe for disaster. Just try and get your cheap river and move on.

You can also sometimes check this flop but I like betting better.

I think raising turn is a poor play but if you are going to raise the turn you need to be jamming.

As played I am folding - I don't think our K high is gonna be good enough.
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