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Villain: LAG 3 bets a lot, often times pretty thin, has me covered
Hero stack is 200

Hero is UTG with AdJs, raise to 10, all fold to Villain in BB who 3 bets to 25. Given his 3 bet history and the fact I'll be in position I call.

Flop Ks, two small clubs

Villain cbets 25, I snap call with intention of floating a lot of turns

Turn is a third club, villain checks, I bet 60, villain thinks for a while and calls. He made it seem like a difficult decision, I don't think he was acting

River is Q of clubs, villain checks I go all in for about 85.

I think the 4th club is a really good card for me. For a pot at about 220 villain doesn't need to fold that often for it to be a profitable bluff. What do you all think?


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Pre: seems reasonable.

Flop: meh. Kxx boards are generally pretty favorable for the 3bettor. a Q or J high board would be much better since we have way more middle cards in our range. And obviously having a club in our hand would make this float a lot better also. If he really is that light, he is likely to use any club turn to barrel again.

Turn/river. This was the plan so, yeah sure. I think i bet slightly smaller ott to set up a bigger river shove and/or lose less if he raises.

I am not really loving the cold call with this hand, it just is that not great of a hand when HU in 3bet pot.
You do have position but say his 3 bet history is why you called I would like to know what that means.
If he 3 bets very light then I can almost see a reason too 4bet here.
On the flop you had a plan ,I am guessing that the villain is Cbetting here 100% of his range is why you called and too steal on the turn.
Turn gave you a decent card as you can rep the flush.
River you just go for it but I am a bit worried as you don't have much of a stack left on the turn to really make a difficult decision for him on the river.
Villain should know that given your bet on the turn you will shove just about all Rivers.
I do like the turn bet sizing as it sets up a nice river bet size the problem I can see is that he will call more often than not with just about any club that is in his 3 bet range as he is getting decent odds too call the river.
Overall I think that you should probably either fold or 4bet this preflop given that you are only 100bb deep I would be leaning towards a fold a lot here.

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Every street is spew

^ harsh but fair.

Loose 3bettor is not 3betting loose vs UTG open from the blinds. This is the tightest his 3bet range will ever be.

AJo is a marginal/unprofitable UTG open anyway and absolutely doesn't need to defend vs this particular 3bet.

Flop is awful for your hand giving you almost no equity other than your 6 A/J outs which will frequently be bad anyway. Floating is almost entirely reliant on a fold equity so probably -EV.

Turn V checks on a scare card so, fair enough, this is your one chance to get something back on this hand so you give it a shot. I would have made it just the one shot though because...

...once V x/c turn he is pretty comitted to the pot and frequently has Ac in his hand.

Therefore I would say any non club river would be good for your third barrel and the clubs are the worst cards in the deck to barrel except maybe a second K. You're toast when that last club comes down and you have to just check/muck.

Thanks for the responses. That's what I'm here for. To learn and get better.

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Edit: At a typical 1/2 I'm not opening AJo UTG.


Pre-Flop: I'm ok with Flatting. Against this Villain for sure.

Flop: I would like to have something to look forward to with my hand / flop-texture to float. You didn't. You don't really have an optimal stack size to call flop, bet turn, shove river. Although it isn't horrible.

Turn: This was the plan, so meh absolute, correct relative.

River: What else can you possibly do? Check it down and hope you win with A high. Either one here is acceptable. Problem is doubt he calls turn with A-high or worse without club; that means he has a pair or better on turn, and he has that to call without club on Turn, and if he called Turn with club you're boned cause he should logically call river now that he has flush.

1) We just don't know that. Villian could easily have a range we do very well against with AJo at 100BB, and that includes if he's 3B suited connectors etc. / We have position, we can let him hang himself.

2) I really like this analysis, it made me think. However, still, this is assuming to call the Turn he had Ac, seems biased thinking, I see no reason he doesn't make a painful call with a Kx or PP.
If you he does have Ac, the advice is perfect.

^ yes we don't know V is positionally aware and varies his 3bet range according to circumstances but if he is LAG and 3betting a lot he will likely learn these skills fairly rapidly or he will run out of money. So either V just started lag style or he is positionally aware. I'd err on the side of caution given our uncertain read and our lousy hand.

The other thing is your plan to let V hang himself postflop vs what will mostly be your Ace-high really requires an extrordinary read on V's postflop tendencies that goes way beyond my simple assumption V is tighter 3betting here than any other situation.

If you plan to only let V hang himself when you hit flop he is going to own you by blasting you off 2/3rd of flops. If you intend to call him down ace high and hd isn't an absolute maniac you are going to GE owned by his value range and his pair+ draws.

Be careful not to use lack of certainty about V range to allow you to play more hands when really it should be making you tighten up.

@ Rage: That's why I call the 3!, combined with position, that simple. If I don't hit and flop is semi-generous to him I shut-down. If I don't hit and flop is not generous to him and not completely stupid for me I can float one street. If I hit in most varieties I can let him hang himself for 2, maybe 3 streets.

For record, folding AJ PF after being 3! with unknown Villain range--- I have no problem with that.

A little more behind the thin 3 bets. I saw him 3 bet OOP with 36 suited earlier. I'm fine with my calling Preflop against him. I think I obviously went wrong later in the hand though

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So he 3bet 63s vs an UTG open to 5X?

Fold pre, fold flop.

As played I dont like the river shove.

pre - snap shove all in. you are way ahead of his range. why not just pick up the free money right there?

as played, kinda weird that he called the turn. just about to impossible as what to range him on. so you have to jam river seeing as V almost has some kind of showdown value in this hand.

too bad you didn't have more money.

I'm ok with re-raising him back. But why a shove?

Eff Stacks 100BB:

5bb open, 12.5bb 3!

why not 28-33BB 4! / Call Shove
--Levels his head. GII against his range that beats, folds out AQ prob, or not. But old standard we're encouraging to fold worse and better to call. Shove looks weaker than 4! Looks like we have AK. But could be other side coin and maybe he plays back with Odd holding, and then we just call. He's prolly thinking we are thinking he is 'playin' us, so it is causing us to reciprocate 'play' and therefore he may think we fold to 5! No?

If reason is we wanna realize 5 cards, just callshove/shove flop no?



Why shove and not smallish 4! ?

4! or folding pre are both fine, calling is not. You aren't deep enough to call and you certainly don't want to be calling with an RIO hand like AJ. If you don't feel comfortable enough to 4! just muck it and move on.