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Bink with 33, bet sizing on river? Bink with 33, bet sizing on river?

05-30-2017 , 11:36 AM
1/2 club game, effective stacks $350.

V is a dealer and has dealt to H in this club before. 25 yo white guy. This is my first time playing with V. Hasn't gotten to showdown yet but has made a few raises pre and a c-bet or two. My general opinion of dealers is that when they play they're often too wide/LAGGY but haven't had this confirmed for V yet.

H - 35 YO white guy. Lost a big pot the first hand when a different V flopped a set. V should view H as competent but gambly and aggressive.

V raises to $10 UTG +1. 3 callers, and H calls in BB with 33.

Flop ($50) - 642ss. H checks. V leads out for $20. Folds to H who calls.

Flop seems pretty standard though I guess folding is OK too. This is a good flop for 33 as I have 6 outs to improve and am often ahead when V is c-betting unpaired overcards. I probably fold to a turn barrel unimproved, but if no turn barrel would call most rivers unimproved.

Turn ($90) 3h, putting a heart draw out there. H checks, V bets $25, H raises to $75, V snap calls (basically beating H to the pot).

Think my check raise was a little small here, though I was worried given V's bet sizing that he'd give up. When he snap calls I put him on an ovepair.

River ($240) - Th, making final board 6423T with a heart flush available. Almost exactly a pot sized bet behind. H is first to act. Bet sizing? My inclination was all in for max value if V has an overpair, though a little concerned I'm only getting called if V binked TT or turned a flush draw.
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05-30-2017 , 12:01 PM
Actually snap calls on flops/turns are usually draws.

I would check to keep his missed draws in so we can bluffcatch. I don't think we're getting any more from an overpair here.

Fold flop. You don't have 6 clean outs and you're oop. If you are feeling particularly frisky and you have the 3s you can x/r flop also.
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05-30-2017 , 01:40 PM
Tricky spot, I like the check here too. I don't think V has an overpair here, his bet on the flop seems smallish. More like 2 overs which makes me think his snap call is picking up hearts draw on the turn. I'm checking that river card.
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05-30-2017 , 01:56 PM
Flop is definitely a fold or a 3bet, he's betting into 3 people so his weakest hand is going to be 2 overs + a fd. If you think he can fold an overpair, I'd raise, but as a default I would fold. As played, you should lead the turn since he should check back a lot of his overpairs OTT, and play tight to a check/raise. Given that assumption, his range OTT should be a lot of draws, so check/calling the river seems best, since he shouldn't have too many heart hands that he bet into 3 people.
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05-30-2017 , 04:05 PM
You just cannot check in a spot where you have a monumental range advantage and your opponent has no reasonable bluffs. A small bet is the standard in such spots at level 1, and that fits well here.

The unfortunate river likely shrinks his calling range, but not to the point where he only calls hands that have you beat and folds the rest - there just aren't many combos that he has better than a set and checking means he needs to bet worse more often than call which seems extremely unlikely on a low ranked, 4liner, bd flush board facing aggressive action.

Now, there are some hands that you may not have accounted for that do have you beat, but that is still a small part of his likely range on the river and he just has too many check backs with hands that might have called a small bet, as scary as the board is/our line. Perhaps he too heavily leans on the fact front door spades missed, besides calling mistakes are far more prevalent than betting ones. Maybe he even calls down to 77 sometimes.
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05-31-2017 , 05:38 AM
Fold flop, all your draws are obvious as hell when they hit.

x/r turn is pretty gross, typically when a turn or river is a good card for your range and a bad card for your opponent's, you should be leading.

On river I guess jam and hope he thinks you're bluffing? idk, I mean, this is why you can't call the flop. You hit one of your 6 outs and now are scared to bet it because you look so strong and you could be owned by a better hand.
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05-31-2017 , 05:48 PM
Results - I go all in, V hems, haws and calls. MHIG. He says he had AA.
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05-31-2017 , 08:25 PM
Well, he can rest easy knowing he played his hand perfectly.
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06-01-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
Turn ($90) 3h, putting a heart draw out there. H checks, V bets $25, H raises to $75, V snap calls (basically beating H to the pot).
Snap calls are usually draws. Question is, is it a H or S draw? Ideally, with 2 flush draws on board I'd like to see a bigger raise in this spot.

I'd check the river. Only flushes and 5x are likely to call you. Maybe some overpairs will but it doesn't jive with the snap call on the turn. Overpairs like AA with either a spade and/or a heart may snap call believing they are blocking flushes, but usually villain will consider before calling.
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06-01-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
Results - I go all in, V hems, haws and calls. MHIG. He says he had AA.
I wonder if he had flush blockers. I guess we'll never know. (Unless Villain is a lying liar.)
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06-01-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Well, he can rest easy knowing he played his hand perfectly.
Do you really think V played this hand perfectly? I don't think this is a great board for him to stack off on $350 deep with an overpair. If he was going to stack off I'd have thought he should be betting bigger on every street.
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06-01-2017 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
Do you really think V played this hand perfectly? I don't think this is a great board for him to stack off on $350 deep with an overpair. If he was going to stack off I'd have thought he should be betting bigger on every street.
Sorry my [sarcasm] tags got cut out
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