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04-09-2013 , 01:29 AM
5-5 300-1000 bike
500ish eff

Hero (AsAd)UTG+1 opens 25
mp-Btn and both blinds call
flop) 3s-4c-10d
Hero bets 105 BB calls
turn) 3s-4c-10d-6c
pot-310
Hero puts BB all in 365ish
BB is very splashy/chatty, but has a clue
Is their ever any other play here? would it be better to slightly overbet the flop to make turn shove less than pot etc?

5-10 uncapped Hustler
5 way limped
Hero-btn(1900) 9s8s
Flop) 9d-8c-2s
BB(2k) bets 35
utg,mp calls
CO(1kish) raise to 215
Hero??
CO is fishy, quite passive
BB is good winning tag
utg+mp rec players but not huge spots.

Last edited by JayJoe; 04-09-2013 at 01:57 AM. Reason: BB's stack
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04-09-2013 , 01:40 AM
hand one looks perfect, hand two is sick without more detailed reads but I think it is possible for him to have overpairs, top pair on occasion, I flat although i think its close.
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04-09-2013 , 02:43 AM
looks like you have 4 callers pre in hand 1 which would mean you are betting 30 more than a psb which is fine. Even if it's 60 still fine.

Hand 2: Fishy passive player makes about a pot size raise w/ 3 other players showing interest in this hand and one who has yet to act behind him. Definitely alarms ringing in my head. If you have any more reads they may definitely help but I'm honestly not feeling too great about my hand here.

I think i give co a range that in his eyes he feels he has to protect as i don't think he is doing this w/ a straight draw. Also can't see him overlimping w/ an overpair other than maybe 10 10 here can anyone? the range im putting described villain on: 9 9, 8 8, 2 2, 9 8, 9 2, 8 2 and i would lean towards the 9 2 and 8 2 to being suited cause a lot of fish fold unsuited garbage too. Maybe i'm really wrong but w/o more reads I'm feeling a fold.
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04-09-2013 , 03:38 AM
hand 1 looks good. betting larger otf shouldn't make a huge difference with your opponents calling ranges otf or ott. making it 140 otf and 330 otr will likely have the same results as how you played the hand.

hand 2 is either a ship or fold. really depends on the opponent but if he is that passive then we can eliminate most draws from his range except for maybe oesfd that have great equity against top two, so i could find a fold.
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04-09-2013 , 06:47 AM
oesfd is not possible, also probably discounting overpairs as it's a limped pot

sick spot, not a bad time to fold top two. Another thing to keep in mind is that the 2p hands you beat are 92 and 82 -- do you think CO calls pre with those? (i don't know just how fishy he is) As mentioned he might only call 92 and 82 if suited in which case there are only two combos of each.
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04-09-2013 , 07:25 AM
What's CO stack size in hand 2?
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04-09-2013 , 07:53 AM
Hand 2: Don't ever fold top two pair and a backdoor FD to a fish on a rainbow flop. Even passive fish will overplay hands sometimes. I also think the Fish's large sizing is inconsistent with a set because the flop is rainbow. We have about 19% equity against bottom set anyway if we get unlucky enough to run into the tip-top of his range. I would call and re-evaluate the turn, most likely stacking off on the turn.
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04-09-2013 , 01:46 PM
can you pm me results of both hands?
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04-09-2013 , 04:12 PM
Thanks for your thoughts guys
5-10 uncapped Hustler
5 way limped
Hero-btn(1900) 9s8s
Flop) 9d-8c-2s
BB(2k) bets 35
utg,mp calls
CO(1kish) raise to 215
Hero raises to 550
BB tanks 3mins. Shoves
others fold 1400 to me
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04-09-2013 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fogodchao
hand 1 looks good. betting larger otf shouldn't make a huge difference with your opponents calling ranges otf or ott. making it 140 otf and 330 otr will likely have the same results as how you played the hand.

hand 2 is either a ship or fold. really depends on the opponent but if he is that passive then we can eliminate most draws from his range except for maybe oesfd that have great equity against top two, so i could find a fold.
making it 500ish gives BB a chance to play his hand face up/lets me save 1400+ when he has it etc.
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04-09-2013 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JayJoe
making it 500ish gives BB a chance to play his hand face up/lets me save 1400+ when he has it etc.
if he checked his BB he probably doesn't have 99 or 88... could even have sometihng like 92 or 82.. I call!

Results pm plze?
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04-09-2013 , 10:02 PM
As played, fold to the good TAG BB's bet/4-bet shove. He is not overplaying a baby 2 pair. Good TAGs also don't bluff here. So, he is probably making a bad shove with bottom set.

If I had bottom set in his position, I would have just called your 550 to trap the fish for more money. Nevertheless, bottom set is good TAG's most likely holding.

Fold.
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