Local 1/2 game. Hero seen mostly as TAG. Villain in hand has played a good amount with hero. Villain plays a somewhat loose passive style. That said, he will slow play flat some big hands preflop from time to time. Generally a bit more aggressive post.

Villain 165, hero covers. Villain limps utg+1. Four more limpers including small blind. Hero checks Qc6x in bb.

Flop Qx 9c 6c

Small blind bets 10. Hero raises to 30. Villain shoves. Is this a snap call. I didn't snap but eventually did call. Just wondering what people range villain at. My guess was 66 96, q9 and any combo draw...and an occasionally overplayed AQ.

You added "any combo draw" for V when V is "somewhat loose passive" ?
Maybe you're referring to Jc Tc or 8c 7c? 2 hands?
Stu Unger loved gettin' it in with TPTK & nut flush draw......... maybe that's what he had? NO! You have the Qc.

I know you said V is "generally a bit more aggressive post" but hell! All - in?!

I'm not saying it's a bad play with the hands I referenced, but can you see V making that kinda' move?

If I give V JTc, 87c, QQ+, 99, 66 Ac Qx, you have 58.9% equity according to my software app.

Give a scared set more weight & you're an underdog. Especially when he may have limped with Q9s

If you say V would NOT go all-in with AQ but would with Q9s then your equity is 50.7%

I had queen of clubs. Also there are some fd plus gutter combo draws. Kjcc ktcc j8cc 57cc 58 cc t8cc

Hero has the Q so V can't have TPTK+NFD

But since V will slow play monsters, AA/KK/QQ should be in his range

Vs the range of {QQ+, 99, 66, Q9, Q6, JT, J8, T8} you're a 54%

You're calling $133 into a pot of $217, that's a call

I think your range is generally right. 99 is probably in his range if he's passive pre, maybe even QQ. He might have some noncombo draws every now and then.

A lot of villains will be hesitant to lead with a big hand here. I would probably call, but I don't think it's a snap call.

I later caught the fact that H had Qc & fixed that when I was adding additional info to my post above.

It never occurred to me that V [with H's description of him] would go all-in with less than the nut str8 draw & a gutter ball str8 draw - 13 outs, when he hasn't nothing but a draw.

Not saying it's a bad play - it's an excellent play vs right Vs or proper stack size etc. I think anyways.

Either way, you're getting about 1.6:1 on your money on a coin-flip.

This required call is one of the many reasons why I believe you need 40x your buy-in for a bankroll to ensure you don't have to take out a loan to replenish it.

I remember the story being told, that the 2nd time Johnny Chan won the WSOP, he won 12 coin-flips when it was down to 2 tables, giving him a large chip lead going into the final table.

If he can win 12 in a row...........I can lose 12 in a row.

Yeah, people shove gut shot straight flush draws. It is 2015.

What software are you using? I gave mine the above range for V & it says H has 46.4% equity.

If I give V JTs, J8s, or T8s, [in any suit] then H has 52.9% equity.

However, if you assume V will only go all-in with JcTc; Jc8c; Tc8c, 8c7c then my app gives H 46.7% equity.
And that's if V really limps UTG with Q6 offsuit.

I think I found it - you ran #s with 87s but didn't list it. When I add 87s in any suit, H has 54.2% equity

However, that's only if we assume V will limp UTG+1 with Q6o

He probably would not limp Q6...maybe Q6s. He will limp 96s...and all of the combos which could be any straight flush draw on this board. He may limp 99, he may not. He doesn't limp QQ.

Either way, whether it is 46% or 54%, I am getting 1.6 to 1 which would justify a call in either case.

propokertools, but thats moot, i think i put the range in incorrectly.

Stove it. A loose passive isn't going crazy with a draw here except maybe Qxcc. But you block Qxcc. He can have 99, 66, Q9 that you lose to. This is really a matter of how often you think he limps AQ, KK, AA AND bet shoves flop.

This thread seems pretty dead so -- Results.

Hero calls. V shows JTcc.

We run it three times. Hero wins 2/3.

Running it 3 times over a $300 pot = lolz

This is common in home games. People come to play with spare change from their paycheck and/or winnings from their last session. They don't have the required bankroll to handle the variance w/o high risk of seeing it evaporate.

They play for fun & never consider building a fat roll. A big win means new speakers for their car or a few xtra bags of ganja. That's the roll they are more interested in building up.

Some home games sell insurance [15% juice] when you're heads-up & 1 player is all in. You'll often see people buy insurance against V's 2-5 outs. They'll even take out insurance against more outs if the pot is big enough. At least enough to cover the $$ they have in the pot.

Yeah, honestly, I play with the guy all of the time and he was on a single bullet that night. He asked me to run it 3 times and I said fine. Wouldn't normally, but we are friends.