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5/10 flopped set vs villain strange line on drawish board 5/10 flopped set vs villain strange line on drawish board

11-07-2015 , 11:15 PM
Hero (covers all): loose aggressive player. Perceived as a winning and competent player by villain.

Villain J ($1500): a very loose player. Plays rather passively preflop (seldom see him 3 bets. Willing to call large preflop raises. Likes to limp with speculative cards. However, he plays postflop rather aggressively. Capable of bluffing in huge pot. However, there r times when villain bets big, hero called the huge bet to his dismay because villain has monster hands.

Villain F ($1000): a big fish in this table. Just join the table but is
Immediately single out by hero as a bad player.

OTTH

Hero raise $55 at MP with pocket 5s, CO (villain F) calls very fast, BB (villain J) paused for
A while and calls.

Flop (~$170): 5c 9d Qd
Checked to Hero who bet $125, everyone called.

Turn (~ $550): Ts
Villain J bets $700, hero?

Last edited by Andnoel; 11-07-2015 at 11:21 PM.
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11-07-2015 , 11:46 PM
Open smaller pre

Flop sizing is okay, I prefer 150-200 since anything that has a piece/draw on that board is never folding

Shove, you're behind sometimes but he has enough random QT/T9 in his range that folding is out of the question
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11-09-2015 , 12:40 PM
I second that you should open a little smaller, mind the tables avg stack size, and you want to be able to call a 3bet if applicable:
if you open for 35, you typically get 3b to 100-125, which makes set mining still profitable
you opened for 55, if you get 3b its likely to 150-200, and now you're getting less implied odds to bink a set, and committing more before the fact.

As played, too many hand combos you can beat, and considering your eff stack i like your hand here. I'm shipping over his 700 unless you have a read
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11-09-2015 , 06:21 PM
With the whale in the hand I expect VJ to have mostly value here when he overbets like this. The VF can have KJ some small % of the time which makes things a little more difficult... But to put things in perspective vs VJ, even vs a range of KJ, QT, and 99 which is basically worst case scenario for your hand you have 42% and you need 41% to continue. I expect him to be pretty nutted here and it's pretty close to breakeven vs the absolute top of his range. If he can have draws here (I don't think he will) then this becomes a trivial shove. At the same time if the whale is really bad and calls hands like QJ/KQ here which some whales will, it is also a trivial shove. Basically, in the absolute worst case scenario we can break even shoving here, and if either of them do something stupid any % of the time, which everyone (especially a whale) does, then we do quite well jamming here.

Cliffs:
Spoiler:
I has set, I is all in
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11-10-2015 , 12:36 AM
snap gii at these stack depths vs this opponent
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11-13-2015 , 04:13 PM
tank ship. lots of wierd two pair and combo draws in his range. he might just gambol with you.

if he spiked a set a tens on the turn, ouch.
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11-13-2015 , 05:07 PM
yea just get it in. he can be donking a done of draws and pair plus gutters and two pairs. Just not enough that beats you.
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11-16-2015 , 06:11 AM
yea jamming all day tons of stuff he called flop with turned a pair/2pr and he def bombs 2pr for value.

also you flopped a set which u prob felt orgasmic about dunno why you're feeling confused now.
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11-22-2015 , 10:26 PM
Snap/happily get it in. SOOOOO many 2 pair he's happy to get it in with (thinking you have AA/KK/AQ since you were the pfr after all) that I'd have to be monster deep to even consider not happily shipping.
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11-23-2015 , 01:14 AM
A call may keep villain F (fool?) in. And, of course, you commit yourself to a showdown. I'm not esp. happy if my set improves to a full house because all two pairs suddenly beat me. The huge cost of getting beat full house over full house is why I'd hesitate to play a baby pair this deep in the first place.

p.s. I'm still soliciting inputs on the chumps & b1tches thread.

Last edited by Bad Lobster; 11-23-2015 at 01:14 AM. Reason: perfectionist
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11-30-2015 , 01:30 AM
Pretty boss to open to 55 with 55.

All in.
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