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03-26-2018 , 01:25 PM
Villain is good reg, capable of bluffing and not afraid to go for thin value.

Villain - $900 Hero - $1500

Crazy 1/3

$6 UTG straddle is on, folds to hero on bb and raises to $20 with KsKc, villain 3-bets to 80 and hero 4 bets to 225, villain calls.

Flop AT4r - ($450)

Hero bets $200, villain calls.

Turn Jx - ($850)

Hero jams for villains remaining stack.

Thought? Should I be betting turn/ be looking to get it in after he calls flop
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03-26-2018 , 02:48 PM
5! pre, check flop, AP fold turn


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03-26-2018 , 03:17 PM
Why are u betting flop and turn? What do you want to call?
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03-26-2018 , 09:30 PM
Check flop.
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03-26-2018 , 10:46 PM
good bluff. hope he folds AQ.

if only more players bluffed with KK..games would be so much tougher my god
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03-27-2018 , 01:09 AM
Basically do the opposite of what you did on every street
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03-27-2018 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Basically do the opposite of what you did on every street
Yes.
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04-03-2018 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by iamallin
good bluff. hope he folds AQ.

if only more players bluffed with KK..games would be so much tougher my god
There may be some merit to this but as played this is not exsctly the range u want to be bluffing against. Nor the villain type
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04-04-2018 , 11:52 PM
lol. how did you get so deep with sort of play.
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04-05-2018 , 12:05 AM
I think this a poor play. general 4b/calling ranges have a lot of 1010+, AK of which you're behind literally every single combination with the exception of QQ. QQ is also unlikely to start bluff/firing so I'd just beat that at SD. I don't mind the flop bet, that flop should hit you slightly harder than V but once calls and the J drops, you now also lose to JJ, J10 a floated KQ, basically the board keeps getting worse and worse. I suppose AQ exactly could find a fold but you've already described the game as loose/crazy. Hard to beat those games bluffing in $2K pots.

Villain already has 1/2 his stack in and is getting 3:1 on a call. Wrong V, wrong hand, wrong game, wrong pot management, I don't like it. Seems like a button clicking bluff to me rather than a well thought out plan.
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04-05-2018 , 12:23 AM
Check flop. AP I’m folding turn. You don’t beat anything besides QQ and if he called you on flop his range is skewed towards an ace.
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04-05-2018 , 04:07 AM
I wouldve 4! even bigger than this with how deep we are, yeesh, maybe raise to $275 and fold to a ship?

AP what an awful flop and even more awful turn. All you beat is QQ. I dont care how competent V is, if he is playing 1/3 he very very likely cant fold TP+gutshot after calling flop if he has AK/AQ, and thats his weakest possible hand here.

I think id check/fold flop. If V has QQ/JJ he is gonna check back flop, so youre just hoping for a checkdown. AP im even moreso giving up ott, esp because you picked up a gutshot, and AQ/AK will likely check back and AA might even be slowplaying.
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04-05-2018 , 10:51 AM
PF Sizing sucks $20 initial raise way too small in a $6 straddle pot, make it $30 at least. His raise to 80 and flat feels like AK a lot of the time.

Check flop, fold turn.
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04-05-2018 , 12:50 PM
I suck at deepstack.

With such deep stacks (and my admittedly nit image), I probably just limp preflop and setup a bluff catcher from the start. Course if we think a raise in this spot will get 3bet a lot, then I'm all for the raise. I'm guessing I'm cool with stacking off preflop against this guy and will chalk AA vs KK as a cooler (where I typically wouldn't 300bbs deep), so I'm cool with the 4bet.

Why did we bet the flop? A better hand is never folding, and a worse hand isn't likely to call (apart from perhaps a gutshot but other than that this board is pretty dry). We're WA/WB, and against an aggro opponent we'd much rather have the money go in by check/calling than betting and getting called. Is our plan to attempt to get him off Ax by barrelling? Do we think that will work in an SPR 2 pot? I see no reason to bet the flop.

Same sorta deal for the turn, except now on the turn yet even another hand moved ahead (TT moved ahead on the flop, now JJ on the turn, as did a speculative KQ). What are we trying to do, get AQ to fold?

Gbut,Isuckatdeepstack,sowhateverG
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04-05-2018 , 02:00 PM
Uh, what are you trying to get called by here? Thinking you get value from QQ? I hope this isn't supposed to be a bluff.

This player's betting range is wider than their calling range, so if you want, x/call it off. But firing into him with an underpair seems like burning money to me.
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