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04-23-2015 , 10:05 PM
6-handed 1/2, Hero ($180) with AKcc from BB

Folds to villain ($150) who opens $16 from BTN, Hero 3bets to $50, he calls.

Flop ($100) 5s 4h 2c

Hero c-bets $60...

SPR on flop is between 2 and 3, if I c-bet it needs to be over 2/3 pot otherwise it looks B.S. But if this cbet gets called my turn SPR is like 0.3, what to do then?

As alternatives on flop, what about c/f, shove, or even c/shove ?
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04-23-2015 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCartmanez
6-handed 1/2, Hero ($180) with AKcc from BB

Folds to villain ($150) who opens $16 from BTN, Hero 3bets to $50, he calls.

Flop ($100) 5s 4h 2c

Hero c-bets $60...

SPR on flop is between 2 and 3, if I c-bet it needs to be over 2/3 pot otherwise it looks B.S. But if this cbet gets called my turn SPR is like 0.3, what to do then?

As alternatives on flop, what about c/f, shove, or even c/shove ?
Am I missing something? SPR on the flop is 1. Pot is $100, and villain, who started the hand with $150 and called a $50 3-bet, now has $100 behind. Just jam flop (if villain is likely to call off with hands like AQ or fold hands like TT) or check and get it in (if villain is likely to bet the majority of his range).
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04-23-2015 , 11:47 PM
yes you're right the flop SPR is 1. sorry i'm new to NL and somehow thought stacks were double what they were.

if both villain and hero had $200 behind on the flop (still $100 in the pot) would we still shove?
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04-24-2015 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MrCartmanez
yes you're right the flop SPR is 1. sorry i'm new to NL and somehow thought stacks were double what they were.

if both villain and hero had $200 behind on the flop (still $100 in the pot) would we still shove?
If there's $200 behind, then reads are even more important. Checking flop is far more appealing at that stack size (but again, very read dependent). Definitely not shoving flop though with SPR = 2.
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04-24-2015 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCartmanez
6-handed 1/2, Hero ($180) with AKcc from BB

Folds to villain ($150) who opens $16 from BTN, Hero 3bets to $50, he calls.

Flop ($100) 5s 4h 2c

Hero c-bets $60...

SPR on flop is between 2 and 3, if I c-bet it needs to be over 2/3 pot otherwise it looks B.S. But if this cbet gets called my turn SPR is like 0.3, what to do then?

As alternatives on flop, what about c/f, shove, or even c/shove ?

You raised almost 1/3 of your stack pre, and have just over a PSB left. This is a pretty good spot to GII. If V has 88-QQ, you still have 10 outs to win.
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04-24-2015 , 06:19 PM
Doesn't really matter if you bet $50, $60 or $100 on the flop, you are obviously calling his shove for $100 total. If he just calls (lol), all-in any turn.

Hand is played fine (if you never folded).
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04-24-2015 , 08:58 PM
What Javanewt said.
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04-24-2015 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Doesn't really matter if you bet $50, $60 or $100 on the flop, you are obviously calling his shove for $100 total. If he just calls (lol), all-in any turn.

Hand is played fine (if you never folded).

if both we and villain were deeper, how should we size the flop bet? say we had $200 behind on flop, we bet $60 and opponent calls. Turn pot is $220 and we have $140 behind, and we can still c/f.

But if we bet too small on flop on this texture it'll look weak. Is there an argument to checking 100% of our range here if stacks were deeper?
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