Is Bart Hanson a good source for LLSNL advice? I watch his call-in show on YouTube. Is he pretty much spot-on in his poker advice?

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This. Bart's material have done wonders for my game, albeit only from terrible to slightly terrible

But in all seriousness, highly recommended.

Yeah, he's the best source for LLSNL content I know

I wanted to follow up because I wasn’t awake with my first reply.

There is a ton of content. I’m still working through what I think is relevant for my mix of live and online play.

It’s a little expensive for what it is and I feel like it could be a little bit more organized.

The forums and members only discord are great and very collegial and helpful.

One of the knocks on Bart is his emphasis on bet-fold and raise-fold as a play. I don’t really get the knock because once you realize correct application of the principle and you abide by it, you print money by not being a donkey.

I think I was an okay player before. It’s certainly made me much better.

I am probably going to sign up for Jonathan Little’s site to further my education once I finish a couple books (hand reading and grinder’s manual) but I will most likely keep my sub at crush live poker.

Oh, also, his podcast on short handed play is superb. It’s about a month old.

I can only stand behind what the other posters have said. Bart Hanson is a great resource for LLSNL games, he is spot on. He is probably one of the guys who have the best hold on small stakes live games.

Lots of useful content on CLP for 1/2, 1/3, and 2/5. For 5/T+ or tournaments you’d be better served by other training sites, like RIO or J. Little.

yeah, RIO Elite is the nuts imo.

Absolutely. I have no doubt that anyone can be a 10BB/hr winner at 2/5 live if they religiously follow his content. There's just no one that even comes close to training for LLSNL specifically.

Bart is a very good teacher on top of a quality player IMO. I like how his style of teaching is to explain what is “unexploitable” (or at least hard to exploit, since lol live poker and GTO), and then deconstructs it. Then you can actually make the exploits necessary to crush 2/5 for $40+ an hour, and know why you’re doing it.

Plus Bart is a Bostonian at heart. Didn’t get a chance to play with him at chasers the time he was there playing 5/10.

Also, there’s something to be said that Bart was able to build his brand without some 3 bb / 100 over 1m hand sample to point to. I think it’s because he answers the question of “how do I take advantage of weak opponents” well.


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I do find it funny that there’s so much advanced content when in reality, most people just want to figure out how they can squeeze an extra $1500-$2000 a month as a side income at the local 1/3 game.


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^the way to squeeze out 20-25 grand in extra income a year (which seems quite high for a recreational player running neutrally but w/e) is to grind 2/5- because the rake impedes your profitability to a *far* lesser degree. In addition to the fact that you’re risking more so your rewards are greater, of course.

It’s possible at 1/3, but I don’t think very many people are making that over 300-600 hours/yr running neutrally.

So advanced content may not be necessary, but increasing your skill edge goes a long, long way in diminishing the effects of variance on your profitability and psyche.

You’re also likely to be battling against numerous pros at 2/5 even @ peak times.

Also, 80-90% of poker players lose for a reason.

tldr; Bart Hanson is great, but there are better options.

Sure, when it comes to higher stakes games i agree there are better options. But when it comes to LLSNL games aka 1-3 and 2-5 Bart is second to none and really tuned in on the games.

Pre Black Friday I never played higher that $100 NL on full tilt. I read SS, Harrington’s stuff, few other reputable books. I play live $1-$3, $2-$5. A couple of years ago I signed up for Upswing Poker. I did learn a few things, but overall my game regressed. I’ve played a little $5-$10 in Vegas, but it’s been a while. I suspect the Upswing approach might be ok there, but it’s way too volatile for live low stakes NL. A while back I signed up for Bart’s site, CLP. Best investment in my game I ever made.
Live NL is all about getting value from weak opponents, not balancing bluffs and value, etc. These opponents are just not sophisticated enough for that. That have huge leaks and taking advantage of those leaks is how you make money. Calling mistakes, bluffing mistakes, folding mistakes, etc.
I do have a few gripes with CLP. I think it could be organized a little better. Also, there is just a ton of material. But there are lots of gems in each video and podcast.
I’d be interested to check out Red Chip, but I’m in no hurry because I’ve been so happy with my CLP subscription.
I also checked out Alex Torelli’s stuff. Also not very organized and there is hardly any material. Definitely not worth what he charges.
On a side note, Bart is number three on my wife’s free pass list and he’s doing everything he can to be number 1.

If you're a cheap nit like me and refuse to pay for poker advice (apart from buying the occasional poker book), you can also search YouTube for "Old School Live at the Bike 2004 - 2008". Bunch of old school Live at the Bike episodes which Bart mostly commentates, with lots of different limits / games but still a lotta lolLLSNL. Lol @ me, but I still work thru some of these videos when bored at work; decent thought process overall (although I'm sure he's changed some of it over the years) and entertaining, imo.

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Stones Live also has some amazing plays. Good place to learn how to bluff when you can see other people's cards.

He also hosts a CLP call-in YouTube stream every Monday. Free hand history reviews, and access to other hh clips.

He provides tons of free content. He doesn’t try to fleece his customers

But Bart does provide a lot of free stuff to people. He also provides an enormous amount of info to subscribers. Videos, podcasts, etc. I don’t know how he finds the time.

When you sign up for CLP, and I know you will because you want to improve, you will see that Ki Lee does the fast track videos. In those videos he shows how solvers suggest playing your range against various actions, etc. He goes even further and explains why the solver suggests certain actions. I think Bart is also beginning to incorporate solvers into his concepts.

Doug said he’s never used solvers. In the videos of Doug’s and Ryan’s there are no solvers, only in videos of Danmer and stuff.

However, we play live low stakes NL. Solvers don’t really apply here. I mean, just look at the biggest live low stakes crushers ; solvers aren’t required. Why? Because balancing ranges means nothing at low stakes. The mere idea is beyond low stakes donkeys’ ability to understand. Live low stakes is all about exploitation, and that is what Bart focuses on a lot. And it works!
His main mantra is value, value, value. No need to bluff if they will call too much. Instead value bet because they call too much.

How the hell did this thread turn into DN vs DP? Take that **** to NVG. Deleted.

interested to hear how BH acquired this $100,000,000+ roll lmao

Pretty much exclusively through live poker. He crushes games of all levels. I once saw him at Bellagio playing $10,000-$20,000 NL hold em. It was insane.

$10,000/$20,000 eh?

5/5 seems like a pretty big downgrade from that.

Might have been $10-$20. I didn’t get a good look at the chips.

I find all these gushing hanson comments hard to believe. If you want to pay for content then hanson is not the way to go by miles despite what his shills say