Bad or standard 1/3 hand, trips on river
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 92
V is solid thinking player who plays mostly 2/5, played with him for a couple hoiurs until this hand and he was standard aggro/nothing too crazy. Our history has been me 3 betting him in like 4 pots and winning all of them, showing one 2 st bluff and the rest i didnt show but had something decent as i am not trying to get too out of line vs him.
525 ef stacks I 3bet his co open of 13 to 40 with QJs in sb he calls pot is 80 and comes j572 clubs,,,I decided to play passively this time for alittle pot control deepish and to let him start bluffing. he bets 30 I call,. Turn Jc he bets 125 i call,...I forgot what the river was but it seemed like a brick and he puts me allin.
Vs a standard 1/3 nittier player with a very low bluffing frequency i think id fold here pretty quick but vs him I wasnt able to let it go, called and he had the 910flush. I guess my hand looks very weak/even a slowplayed overpair is gonna have a hard time calling and he knows it/ maybe i have 9s or 10ns that sometimes call twice that he can bet me off of. I did realise he has plenty of flushes and aj/kj and sets that make fullhouses but i felt so underrepped and talked myself into a call here. What do you guys think?
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 679
At 1/2 you for sure do not want to balance your 3 bets, but its ok to mix a few in at 1/3 as practice for 5/10.
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 92
It wasnt so much to balance as me having a pretty good 3bet hand deepish that plays better as a 3bet than call imo
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 12
I like the 3B pre
I'm not sure what the flop was ? you say there was a J then you have the J on the turn....
Anyway if its monochrome flop, I cbet small. Whether the J is there or not. If I'm the 3B guy, I'm almost 100% cbet small on flop.
Whether I hit or not the J on turn (or it was on flop), I check call.
River, I fold.
Said otherwise, in this spot I cbet flop small, check call once on following streets.
Like you I don't like it. End of the day 1/3 and 2/5, when in doubt on the river, its always a fold. Good for vilain if he's bluffing. At those limits, no matter the player, my usual leak is too many calls, not too many folds.
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 199
Not much you can do in this spot (e.g., he's calling any cbet given he flopped flush draw and gutshot - J of clubs ends up being the worst card possible on turn, as it gives you trips but makes V's flush) - One could argue the 3-bet pre was a bit ambitious but certainly not unreasonable.
You may want to hold off on sharing the results of the hand until you get some feedback re: the key decision point(s).
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36,173
I mostly completely avoid solid players, so I would just fold preflop and move on with life. OOP against a solid player in a bloated pot with a speculative hand and an image where he thinks you may be FOS against him? No thanks.
Next time don't show results. I'm fine with flop. I'm likely ok with turn. River is tough, but mostly this all comes down to my preflo reasoning (i.e. these are not the spots I'm looking to get myself into).
Gpickyourspotsbetter,imoG