that wouldn't be good with out a dynamic - vs unknown players it just loses value. I have no problem with him chasing a draw - and I outpriced the draw. I also set up stacks for a river shove.

What would over betting do - blow him off hands I want calling?

no problem with the small pre opening. sometimes you have to mix it up.

great bets on flop and turn. you had to absolutely bomb the turn and you did.

I don't see how he has anything but the QJspades.

pay him off? for that super price... maybe.

I don't know if I would fold, but I do know that paying him off is likely to cause some tilt.

I actually like the way you played this OP up until I read results. QJss gets there, but I doubt he's calling your PSB on the turn with just a FD or SD. Easy call on river, never folding

My initial reaction was fold, then I looked at the size and was like 4:1... call, then I thought about it some more and think it's a fold. It's really hard to find 20% spazz/bluffs. IRL I'd probably call sometimes and fold sometimes depending how far along the above thought process I got before I acted.

What would u bet on the river if you hit a flush?

The reasons why an overbet looks especially tempting here are:

1) turn is likely the last street of value

2) villain often has a combo draw. This is different from A724 where he only has a flush draw or AT94 where he only has a straight draw.

3) we heavily block worse value. This is different from holding TT on AT94. This is why #1 is true. If we block value he only has draws, if he only has draws there are no good rivers for us besides the T/4. He either misses or hits, either way no more value on many rivers. So in a spot where we dont block so much value (if we held TT for example), a more normal sizing is fine.

As for not wanting to overbet unknowns...im not sure the reasoning. Dont bluff unknowns sure, but for value it is a safe assumption that it brings villains physical pain to fold.

I overbet twice this weekend, once $600 into $200 and once $900 into $300. Both vs. unknowns, both snap called. The $600 into $200 got called by a bare Q high flush draw on 5678. This villain had shown no sigh of being a station or whale, seemed like a standard player.

Great explanation. Thanks!