Advice taken and is appreciated. 1st well done for your success! I actually did OK at low stakes online but at the time had alot of stresses and need for real $£s so I ended up going higher to 1-2 and 2-5 NL and playing HU and 180 max $100 tournies etc and of course lost some money. I then won my way into some big super sats ( from a few $) for the EPT grand final etc and should of cashed the €750 i think ticket but guess what I fancied my chances and got knocked out on the bubble with 3 big blinds just before Annette Obrestrad. A few other similar ones and no luck. Thinking too much of big scores and not enough of grinding, skill, br man, may be my problem.


Will deposit with view to only player micros for fun, practice and not to make extra money.

About soul reading I do think I'm pretty good at it and can read a mans mood, mind and soul just by looking into their eyes. Or I like to think I can

OK so u think pre it doesnt matter if min raise or to 60

hero betting the turn strong better than check calling

If a smallish pf raise gets you to set up a 90% turn ship for stacks then you should do it as often as possible. You cant lose all of them.

Ive been 1 outed twice for bigger bets in the last month. One was running bottom pair on turn and river to make quads on my flopped top set. It happens. You play long enough you will see everything and lose bigger pots too thinner draws. The only question is how are you going to respond. I fist bumped both of my villains.

Ha ha unlucky, Hope you didn't get banned

A fist bump is a good thing ... as in 'congrats' ...

As played ... In poker, just remember that you cant control what your opponent does, logical or illogical. You can only put them into positions to make bad decisions. The way this hand played out it couldn't have been too much a 'worse' position for your opponent to continue (and overcall) this hand.

Would you have felt any different if you had (because of scared money) shoved the Flop and gotten a call? Goodness, the guy had 23o ...

Working off the premise of combining scared money and drunks. It may have been better to just continue with the c/c mode and not put your stack at risk. Drunks will rarely bluff on the River from what I have seen, but they LOVE to put chips in PF, Flop and Turn regardless of their chances. I really cant see you c/c this River, but if you are going to worry about someone drawing to a 9% hand, then that is what you are going to have to resort to.

As far as PF ... if you raise more the hand never happens .. he folds out the 23. If you limp 3-bet, then hand never happens .. he folds out the 23. You wanted every phase of this hand to happen ... until the 9% River ... AFTER THE CHIPS WENT IN ...

I am becoming much better about being more upset with bad play than bad cards/results. Out of every 20 hands I 'won' it 'felt' like I would be down chips because I would lose 2 huge pots and win 18 small ones. I started to really look at how I played the big pots to determine if I would've been 'as' upset if the pot had been smaller. Forget the number of chips, review the flow of the hand and determine if you had a good (not only) course of action.

You got a guy to call off 'your' stack at 2 to 1 at best drawing 9% ... well done. GL

Another way I look at things as well ..

You have to mentally prepare yourself when you are playing against 'gamblers' as opposed to poker players. Now granted there are poker players who 'lose' their mind a bit and go into gamble mode by floating streets of action and such, but in reality they will know when they are priced out of hand and it's up to you to bet accordingly .. it's called value and you already know this. We can see it ...

But when you place a 'go away' bet in front of a gambler and they still call, you need to be prepared for the potential result not going your way. I forget the pot size, but would you be as upset if you raised $65/80 and he still called? He is still not getting the 9 to 1 he needs to call your bet (and from your OP, he knew this), but he calls anyway. He's a gambler .. and in potential weird way of looking at this, he may have been more inclined to fold to you if you raise $100 than if you shove because he is looking for the 'big score' gamble.

Love having them at the table, but they do 'get' someone .. just don't want it to be our chips going over to the re-distribution center!! GL

Fist Bump, cant believe I was so slow on the uptake, i used to know what that was I swear to God! Must be getting old....

Thanks for the detailed psychological advice etc on how to play against drunks if your playing scared money. Very interesting and I think it could be valid against a certain type who proves hes calling all the way to the river unless he hits.

I think its better i don't play scared money again and apart for some shots this month in live tournies will only play micros as others have suggested. Lets face it if it happened in micros it would of felt like a fly crashing into my stomach rather than a pit bull> I feel like i have wasted everyone's time discussing a silly thread now that I realize that scared money ie rent money was to blame.

Maybe we/mods should close this thread to focus on more worthwhile questions thanks to everyone for contributing though and convincing this fool to not play with scared money.

My question is, what did you range him on PF, and what do we know about V?

As played in a vacuum, raise bigger pre (10-15, unless 7 is standard), still call the 3b. Raise flop for an easier turn shove.

Otherwise, we want this call 9 days of the week.

Coolers never feel good though, but nothing particularly wrong.