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To be fair he isn't the only poster that frequently talks about GTO without having much of an understanding of what it is.

Plenty of posters doing that lately.

Apparently it's the in vogue thing to do these days...unfortunately.

07-24-2016 , 04:09 PM

#52

bwslim69

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 24,927

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMA

By the way. This is similar to a hand i played at 5/10. My flop wasnt as good but i dragged a huge pot because i was ag where my opponents were passive.

4 handed

First to act raises to 30 i call button with 7c8c sb folds bb raises to 125 utg calls i call

Flop 6s7sTh

Bb leads 200, call, i raise to 600 bb folds utg calls and checks dark

3h

I shove for 950 effective, call, river 3c i scoop vs KQss, bb folded pocket jacks

Do you guys understand now?

Not the least bit similar

07-24-2016 , 04:10 PM

#53

crsseyed

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,024

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMA

Yeah sorry this is not a similar hand in anyway.

-Tho nothing wrong with raising or calling in OP's hand

07-24-2016 , 04:12 PM

#54

zoltan

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21,490

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMA

Yes. If you arent raising here at 1/2 take up another hobby. Im being dead serious.

Your opponents have a range of cards in this spot. Some of that range includes better aces and some include worse FDs.

People mostly suck at poker but the better aces are supposed to foldand worse flush draws are supposed to call. This is why its a classic GTO raise. Youdont have to have a pure bluff range here. The mathematical optimum is AJ folds and KQss calls, so raising folds out better and prices in worse simultaneously

So you're a proven winner because your opponents apparently do what they're supposed to do?

07-24-2016 , 04:20 PM

#55

Precept24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SABR42

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So, what's GTO?

Ps. I figured a raise was correct, because our equity in this hand was strong (TP). If we were behind, we have 12 outs (most likely) to win the hand.

Again, what is GTO?

07-24-2016 , 04:24 PM

#56

ITT666

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,663

GTO is a concept you're better off not knowing a thing about at LLSNL. You'll only get yourself into trouble trying to employ GTO at LLSNL.

07-24-2016 , 05:27 PM

#57

suited fours

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,143

GTO stands for game theory optimal. Bing "gto poker" for more info.

GTO poker - much discussed, rarely understood.

07-24-2016 , 05:29 PM

#58

MikeStarr

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 7,962

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwslim69

Stopped reading here

(Sorry Mike)

No need to be sorry. I dont need validation from random unknown people, most of whom can barely break even if they are lucky, for me to know I'm a good player.

(That wasn't referring to you)

07-24-2016 , 05:34 PM

#59

Garick

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,513

Too much e-peening ITT. Locked.

For those who want a poker-playing math PhD's take on GTO, see here:http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...heory-1478991/

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