Up $750 at this table for about 4 hours. Showing mostly winners. I'm mid 20s, and playing fairly TAG and ABC.

It's a 5 way limped pot. I'm the BTN with AQ. I raise to $15 and I get 4 callers. Usually a $15 raise like this has gotten it heads up so I was surprised.

Flop ($62): KJ5

Everyone checks. I check.

Turn ($62): 9

Couple people look like they were considering betting but everyone checks. I check.

River ($62): 10

Woman who was UTG ($400 behind playing pretty standard. She kind of looked like a man and didn't play the typical weak/passive style a woman would). She leads out for $40. Folded around to me. I tank raise to $110 thinking she has a hand like QJ. Thoughts?

I might just shove. Depends on the villain. Her range for leading the river into 4 other players is Qx and smaller flushes, and I doubt she is folding.

At the very least I'm making a pot sized raise to $180.

Shove $360 into a $102 pot?

I love to overbet the pot myself in those kind of spots when we have the stone cold nutz and possibly prisonrape our villains

As you say if she has a flush many villains find that kind of a hand incredibly difficult to lay down on an unpaired board when full house is not possible.

But with those stacksizes here i would make a raise to around 180 myself, and a shove would be a little bit too big. But make sure to raise big OP: like you are raising big as a bully bluff to try and buy the pot. Set up the possibility for villain to make a big big error and pay you off.

i dont mind a raise to 15 pre, sometimes 16-18 depending on table

as played bet turn, easy semi bluff, can double barrel on the river to blow people off of Jx

raise to 130 on river, sucks that your hand will be face up but whatever

Why didn't you bet the flop and the turn to build the pot? On the flop you likely have 7 outs to the best hand and on the turn you have possibly 16. It's pretty obvious you have the nut flush based on your raise. I'm guessing V folded.

If you bet the flop and turn I think your hand is more disguised and you would have won more on the river if it got that far.

Please someone more experienced than me let me know if I am wrong in betting this flop and turn. Normally, I wouldn't "c-bet bluff" in a 5 way pot but you have so many outs to the nuts that it is more akin to semi-bluffing IMO.

Please bet turn

+1. Like 13 clean outs to the stone nutz= mandatory semibluff.

Bet turn imo. U have equity. Ace might be good (tho watch out for AJ/AK it's just a bet/fold if u hit on the river). Also any T and any Spade LDO

As played, I like shove. Either she is calling a big raise (Qx, AQo, ss) or she isn't (2pair, rivered set, total air). Her range for betting river into 4 people, as said above, is more likely straights and flushes which just aren't folding here in a 1-2 game.

If anything she is more likely to call your all-in overbet (tilty bluff shove\) than a begging-to-be-paid, please-dont-fold bet of 110. Although that's down to your table image & her tendencies which as you have written may contradict this.

LOL obv took so long for me to write that everyone got in there with Bet turn ldo before me...

in a 5 way pot youre getting called a vast majrity of the time, or even worse c/r

i like a check, obviously if we has fd as well as gs we would bet flop to get it in hopefully

Ok so we pretty much all agree that checking the flop was correct right? I definitely was on the fence with betting the turn. I felt weak/passive when I checked it.

She snap called my $110 which immediately let me know I could've gotten way more. At worst she had a Q . Possibly a smaller flush.

Can someone explain the psychology of $1/2 players supposedly being more likely to call river overbets than value bets? I see a lot of people advocate for shoving on the river and I haven't incorporated it into my game yet because I just don't see how it's better than a value bet. I haven't really run into many morons that will hero call a river overbet because they think it's a bluff.

I agree with the turn [delayed cbet] bet. You turned a lot of equity.

on the river you wana bet an amount that she will call with her pair/two pair +. I don't think she also has a back door flush nor will people usually put you on one so hopefully she will call a 3x raise. If she has any flush, she might even raise because it's hard to put someone on it especially the pf raiser.

I don't like the overbet jam. She MIGHT only think about it with a K high flush but it will still be hard for her to call it even then. Why try to blow her out of the pot? I could see her saying "well I think I have you but go ahead and take it. I fold."

The thought behind it for me is the experience that many 1/2 villains getting in love with their hand, especially when its a strong hand but not necesserly the nutz. Maybe they have been folding for hours without hitting a strong hand. Maybe they are down and semitilting/not thinking clear. Many possibilites and scenarios that can make a villain call a big bet.

To overbet the pot when you think villain is on a strong holding and having really hard to fold a hand, then an overbet is getting you superior value.

For me its all about letting the villains get the opportunity to level themself into calling, or give them a chance to make a big mistake and call off an overshove.

If you want to read a good thread with good hand examples on this topic, search and read the donkalicous hand thread by poster "dgiharris" on this forum.

If you dont put out a big bet, you dont get the possibility of villain calling either of course.

Bet turn $45. As played raise to $175. Your raise looks like the nuts since you probably don't raise Qx on river here. V is not folding a flush and is often folding Qx to a raise. So get some sweet value and pot that ****.

Flop check is fine in my opinion, although depending on the table you could make a small c-bet of like 15-20, this could eliminate some of your opposition if they didn't hit. However you set yourself up for a check raise from a tricky player in early position who thinks your just c-bet donked into a multiway pot in position.

Turn is a must bet, this sets you up if you do hit. This bet also disguises your had a little more, looks like a possible straight draw as backdoor flushes rarely get there statistically. You have plenty of outs to hit the nuts and possible river bluff if you miss. You don't want to eliminate the opposition completely so I would bet about half pot here.

Once she leads out on the river you HAVE to raise a min of 3-4x of her bet, otherwise you're leaving so much money on the table. Unless she's bluffing here she will have a very hard time folding anything as strong as a flush because, like I said earlier flushes rarely get there on the river from a backdoor draw and your hand certainly doesn't look like a flush if you bet the turn, and especially if you c-bet the flop. Plus if you built the pot a little it does set you up for a position to shove the river and get a call a good % of the time.

I think turn is a bet most of the time, however I like the check on the flop. Once you pick up all that extra equity you should be getting money in the pot. As played the raise seems fine but I think you could of built the pot on the turn. You give yourself a bigger payday when you hit the river.

PF - Fine.
Flop - Fine.
Turn - You should be betting here. No one is seemingly interested in the pot and you picked up a ton more outs to the stone cold berries.
River - As played here, I would seriously consider just shipping it. Basically her entire range UTG as played is going to be smaller flushes or Qx type hands. Either way it's going to be tough for her to fold and she only has to call a small % of the time to make it a more valuable play than a standard value raise. This is a dream setup.

Take a look at elastic vs. inelastic hands. Basically its a spot where your opponents range is highly inelastic, meaning you're either getting called or you're not getting called and the size of your bet is irrelevant. So if you're ahead of a range consisting of mostly inelastic hands, shoving for value is a good move in the long run. This is of course a sweeping generalization but I think it highlights the concept.

As played, I do like an overbet/psr here (to like 160-180) on the river, I'm betting you'll get a call from smaller flushes and AQo fairly frequently. Shoving is probably suboptimal with stack sizes, but a huge raise is good.

I like the flop check. I'd rather raise the turn $35 but I don't hate checking either. I think it makes our back door flush _less_ likely, actually...

I generally like overbet shoving here. It would be especially true if you had a dynamic with the v but that isn't the case here. There is, however, a really good argument for just betting 4x: given the action it's unlikely (or at leat, less likely) that she has the king high flush here. In either case I'd say bet more than you did.

If called, say "damn you have the flush? I hit the straight" and flip your hand over. Not for strategic meta game reasons but just for lulz . How often do we get to river both a straight and a flush at the same time?

Also you are winning $187/hour. Hope you keep that up as long as possible!

You guys are delusional. 400 in a 100 pot. Pretty solid.

Make it 140

Think about people's comments if you were suggesting a bluff-shove representing the back-door flush trying to get someone to fold a straight. Everyone, and I mean everyone, would tell you you were nuts.