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01-11-2018 , 07:45 PM
$1/$2 at casino, 9-handed, avg stack $140-$160

The tables if full of newbies, slow pacing, without significant hands and without re-raises preflop.

Hero is playing aggressively, trying to take advantage of weak folds, but without very much success at the moment...

UTG Hero ($180), AQ raises to $11
UTG+1 ($900), calls $11
utg+1 is a good player, we know each other very well. We're the only two professional players at table. He plays LAG, and came here twenty minutes ago, leaving another table.

3 folds.

CO ($190) raises to $22
newby, taking a lot of time at every decision. He's playing for two hours,
winning $100. I only remember he has made one re-raise, x2 too, with JJ.


3 folds.

Hero calls $22
UTG+1 calls $22

Flop ($69, 3pl.) QT5
Hero bets $30, UTG+1 calls $30, CO calls $30

Turn ($159, 3pl.) 8
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $30.
Hero calls $30, UTG+1 calls $30.

River ($249, 3pl.) Q
Hero bets $92 and is all-in...
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01-11-2018 , 08:28 PM
Lol @ 1/2 pros

Flop bet is bad. Rest is whatevs
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01-11-2018 , 09:49 PM
Hmm ...

Pre - ok with calling AQss for min-raise; I'd fold AQo to a tight newbie 3-bet.

Flop - what was your thinking in leading with TPTK on an innocent board? C/C is more optimal b/c you give others a chance to shovel $ in, most of the time when behind.

Turn - raise (AI) as calling gives combos like KJ or hearts to draw profitably.

River - $ is going in either way.

GL!
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01-11-2018 , 09:49 PM
X/c flop and x/jam turn.
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01-12-2018 , 01:20 AM
Preflop is fine.

Don't like donk leading on the flop. I would look to check raise.

As played, I guess I would check/call turn.

River is fine.
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01-12-2018 , 03:39 AM
Professional poker player: his/her primary source of income to cover living expenses comes from player poker.
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01-12-2018 , 03:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Lol @ 1/2 pros

Flop bet is bad. Rest is whatevs
hehe

+1, think as played turn has to be a shove though
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01-12-2018 , 07:07 AM
I donk lead on flop because I thought:

-There are so many cards (K, J, T, 9, even an Ace) that I don't like on turn. If I'm ahead at this point, there are so many probabilities the other two players check and see freecard.

-I'm pretty sure the newbie (CO) never reraise this flop without overpair or set, and rarely calls with them. So, if he reraise I can fold. And if he holds AK I have this street for value, he can pay here but if I check flop maybe he folds on turn if doesn't hit.

-It's possible that UTG+1 flats preflop with premium, waiting for involving other players in pot, and knowing I'll fold without premium against him if 3-bets in UTG+1. Since he knows CO 3bet maybe is premium, if he chooses to reraise my donkbet he holds very strong hand, I can fold sometimes or reevaluate depending on odds.

-He (UTG+1) also know I tend to steal pots, I expect he calls my donk with Qx, Tx and some pockets, hoping newbie folds his AK, JJ...

check/raise flop I think is a little bit overplay... but maybe check/call were the more profitable play.

I think I would shove on turn, sure. Probably I'm commited with this pot, so there's no powerful reason to check here...

Last edited by rsk46; 01-12-2018 at 07:23 AM.
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01-12-2018 , 07:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Lol @ 1/2 pros

Nice!

But, unfortunately, not always running higher games at this specific casino. Not U.S.A.

Anyway, not a shame to play 1/2, don't you think?

Last edited by rsk46; 01-12-2018 at 07:29 AM.
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01-12-2018 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ZuneIt
Professional poker player: his/her primary source of income to cover living expenses comes from player poker.
Forums-writer principles: believe in what other users post, in order to facilitate communication.

(On the other hand, I really liked the analysis you have done on the hand).

Last edited by rsk46; 01-12-2018 at 07:24 AM.
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01-12-2018 , 08:46 AM
I don't understand why everyone is against betting the flop, because a c/r will indicated a strong hand. Also, one of the reasons Polk gives for not c-betting [when you miss] is if a T & a card close to it flops. Those two cards make a lot of draws possible & as it turned out, both Vs had enough of a piece to continue.
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01-12-2018 , 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZuneIt
I don't understand why everyone is against betting the flop, because a c/r will indicated a strong hand. Also, one of the reasons Polk gives for not c-betting [when you miss] is if a T & a card close to it flops. Those two cards make a lot of draws possible & as it turned out, both Vs had enough of a piece to continue.
In general, is donk betting a wet board with tptk/overpair ok at 1/2? Charging draws and getting fish/whales to continue with marginal holdings doesn't seem too bad especially when the table is loose/passive right? Or am I crazy?
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01-12-2018 , 09:31 AM
I bet it, however, I have a lot of respect for those posters above who don't like betting out.
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01-12-2018 , 11:52 AM
I check flop, but probably with the intention of calling not check-raising. Given stack sizes, a CR will definitely commit us to stacking off which I generally hate to do vs a min-3! preflop. However, I guess with 90 blinds, it doesnt matter too much...just think that if we CR and V shoves, we will be behind close to 100% of the time.

Anyway, AP turn and river seem fine.
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01-12-2018 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
I check flop, but probably with the intention of calling not check-raising. Given stack sizes, a CR will definitely commit us to stacking off which I generally hate to do vs a min-3! preflop. However, I guess with 90 blinds, it doesnt matter too much...just think that if we CR and V shoves, we will be behind close to 100% of the time.

Anyway, AP turn and river seem fine.
This.
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01-12-2018 , 12:38 PM
I don't mind the donk on the flop. If I check, it's to check/call.

Turn and river are fine, although I am so tempted to raise CO's tiny turn bet.
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01-12-2018 , 03:31 PM
^ We've only got $90 behind after calling the turn. The board is very draw heavy. Just stick it in with a x/r and get value from the draws.
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01-12-2018 , 03:44 PM
Oops. Yes, I check/raise the turn to that tiny bet with only $92 behind.
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