1/3 NL

V1 is UTG - White, 35-40 yrs old. He's definitely kind of a calling station. That kind of player who wants to see the next card quite often with his draws. He's complained about his lack of luck a few times throughout the session. He was fairly short stacked when I first arrived and dribbled away that stack, re-bought for 100BB and has been slightly dribbling that away. I saw him 3bet 1010 against an UTG or UTG+1 opener who was a fairly snug, fairly competent, younger "kid". This guy Limp/Called several times PF. Changed seats because the seat he was sitting in was "dead money" or "dead cards" or whatever he said. He's had a couple beers that I've seen and he hasn't been aggressive really at all. Been at the table since I arrived.

V2 is SB - Asian, ~45-50 yrs old. Seems fairly competent for these stakes. Definitely a little on the snug side and knows how to fold. Not my target I intend to tangle with much. He joined about an hour ago.

Hero is BTN - White, mid to late 20s. Tightest person at the table. I do not think I showed down a looser hand at this point, but I've only shown down maybe 3 hands total, including 1 nut flush. Very quiet as usual. Arrived at the table around 2.5 hours ago. Stack is almost exactly where I bought in at this point.

Eff. Stacks are right around $200, so 66BB-75BB.

V1 - Raises $15 (I range him PF at 99/1010+, AJs+, AQos, KQs, maybe A10s. I've seen him limp UTG and over limp, so when he raises UTG I feel he's got Broadways and PPs for sure.)

All Fold.
Hero - calls with AQos ( I have Qh )
V2 - Calls

Pot: ~$45
FLOP: A Jh 7h

V2 - Check
V1 - Bets $125

Hero?

Against V2 I would find this fold easy. Against the "younger kid" at the table, I would still find this an easy fold. This guy I'm not so convinced I am beat here.

This is a trivial fold. He is betting $125 into a pot of $45. If he doesn't have us beat then nice hand by him lol. His play is super exploitable because we will only continue when we have him crushed. I would expect him to have AhXh a lot of times as well as AK and monsters. His range should crush us. If not, hopefully we see his cards and will be more willing to call him light in the future (but in general I'm not calling this light).

Based on his preflop range what can he have that bets 3x pot here? JJ (maybe a bit aggressive for middle set) , or AK/AQ/AJ/AT(you said this one is iffy). Not sure how much air/draws he's got in there. Your Qh takes KhQh out of play. This feels like AK/AQ. I don't think you want to continue against that range. I find the fold. I know it's tough to fold when you make your hand but you have to make your decisions based on the action, not just the board. He's trying to tell you you're beat.

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Sucks, but you have to fold. These types of players are bad enough to do this with AK, JJ or AJ a lot because "ZOMG there's 2 hearts! Better ship it now so I don't lose to a flush draw". The amount of times you're ahead definitely doesn't make up for the times you're behind.

Thanks for your input all.

Ok, what if we had AKos, with no heart? Are you guys folding? Obviously anything stronger we are not folding.

this is a fold because we can find such better spots against a mark like this but a decent chunk of his range is a spite overbet with QQ or KK

Giving V the following range: AK, AQ, AJ, AT, KT, and JJ we see that we are completely crushed.

its just hard to picture V jamming like this with AT or KK

so this is a fold.

or put another way, 95% of the time, V's range is going to be the above, so its just not profitable "hoping" we can catch him bluffing or turning his hand into a bluff in this spot.

If you feel you are one of the better players at the table and are comfortable playing a topped up stack, then there is no reason our stack shouldn't be topped off to the maximum BI after every hand.

Against a tightish opener in EP, I think preflop is a trivial fold. Our implied odds are low (are we going to win that many bets from a hand like JJ with a A/Q on board?) and our reverse implied odds are quite high (especially on A high boards against a hand like AK). At a typical LLSNL table, if you folded AQo to a raise every single time, it probably wouldn't be too far off the best overall play, imo.

A passive guy who is just waiting for a hand just 3x the flop on a drawy board. If he's doing this with KK/AT, good for him. I fold.

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