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Old 03-19-2019, 10:59 AM   #1
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AQo vs. a table of gambling degenerates

1/2 NL with a straddle almost every hand. Most players care more about their sports bets than they do about the poker hand. Others are waiting for a 2/5 game to open. Some players have been complaining about the beats they took during the week but see 40% of flops. Almost every hand is 5 ways to the flop despite massive over betting. There are big swings in this game. OTTH...

8 handed table, 100 BB effective, Hero with $270 and has tight image

Preflop: there is an UTG straddle for $4, Hero is in MP and looks down at AQ and raises to $16. CO, Button, BB, and straddle call.

Flop: (pot is $72) AT6 Hero c-bets for $40, cut off and button call the $40. Other 2 players fold.

Turn: (pot is $190) 9 Hero is 1st to act. How do we proceed?
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:11 AM   #2
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Re: AQo vs. a table of gambling degenerates

Effective stack is $200 before the hand starts? I think you just have to rip it in there given the pot size and the amount left behind.


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Old 03-19-2019, 11:42 AM   #3
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Way more pre. Given your description of table I'd go 30.

More flop given table, probably 60.

As played just shove now.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:54 AM   #4
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Re: AQo vs. a table of gambling degenerates

Shove turn. Bet more on flop.
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:37 PM   #5
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Re: AQo vs. a table of gambling degenerates

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Shove turn. Bet more on flop.
^This.

By the way, where is this game?
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:40 PM   #6
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Way more pre. Given your description of table I'd go 30.

More flop given table, probably 60.

As played just shove now.
Am I raising pre $30 with every hand that there is a straddle?
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:43 PM   #7
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Re: AQo vs. a table of gambling degenerates

Bigger pre if they're that loose and not caring about money. Then when the flop hits it is a bet flop jam turn mode.
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:46 PM   #8
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Bigger pre if they're that loose and not caring about money. Then when the flop hits it is a bet flop jam turn mode.
I think my stack was the right size to do that if I adjust the bet amounts. $30 pre, 2/3-3/4th bet on flop, jam turn.
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Old 03-20-2019, 03:45 PM   #9
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More pre; more flop; jam turn.

If you lose, then reload.
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Old 03-20-2019, 03:51 PM   #10
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Am I raising pre $30 with every hand that there is a straddle?
Clearly it depends.

As a default, if I was brand new not seen any other action, I would raise to 10 in a 1/2 game, and I would raise to 20 with a straddle, and adjust up or down as I got more info. In this case you said everyone is calling big raises so 7.5 * The straddle doesn't seem unreasonable.
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Old 03-20-2019, 03:55 PM   #11
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I think my stack was the right size to do that if I adjust the bet amounts. $30 pre, 2/3-3/4th bet on flop, jam turn.
Seems reasonable but that's post-facto reasoning, we don't know how many callers we will get so can't know the bet/pot ratio.
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