V in question is a 65yr WG old reg that perhaps plays the most in the room every week. Everyone seems to think when he is in a pot or shows aggression he always has it but I have seen him take very good lines with draws and timely bluffs. But mostly plays TAG. Stack is $350ish. H is young 20s WG who the table might perceive as too tight as earlier in a big pot I took some time before calling with trips and was given some jokes for the time I took.

Pre: 4 folds and H makes it $10 w/ AQ in HJ and only V in SB calls
Flop($22): A34 V cks, H bets $15, V calls
Turn($52): A34K V cks, H bets $35, V now raises to $90, H calls
River($232): A34K5 V now bets $155, H should ???

--I guess I should have checked back turn here in hindsight, but I felt there were still plenty of worse hands that would call us and that this specific player would raise me on flop with a strong hand.

Definitely checking back turn as I don't want to get blown off my equity. As played, fold river. The only thing you really beat is KhX hands that he's turning into a river bluff.

Turn is read dependent, but against a TAG who can bluff check back is probably best. He's not going to have many worse hands that can call the turn.

In general you don't make money hero calling at low stakes. Against a maniac, sure. Even against TAGs who are capable of bluffing I still look to hero call sparingly. I don't see a compelling reason to make this the hand I choose. Having the ace and Q blocker is pretty tempting, but his line is just too strong. I'd give him this one.

Are you sure you aren't being results oriented on the turn? How often do we really get x/r on this board by a tag? Imo it is very seldom.

Turn seems like a clear value bet. His NFD now has a pair, he can have worse Ax that calls. 2/3 pot puts a lot of his range in a tough spot. if you want to work in some checks I like it more on the flop.

Facing the turn raise sucks but I think we have to call. AP fold river.

If you weren't planning on calling the river bet you KNEW was coming
then why call the turn raise?????
what were you looking for on the river to improve your hand to a winner?

lol one of these

see bolded
if you put him on K then why would we want a

If a raise to $10 is going to get this HU in position from the HJ then I'm super fine with preflop (but I wouldn't expect this at my table).

Thanks to preflop we've setup a nice big SPR of 15 where we can play some postflop poker in position, nice. I might check back the flop against someone who can be bluffy. We don't really want a lot of bets going in UI, if we're ahead we're likely miles ahead (very few cards he can catch to move ahead), we're fine setting up a bluffcatcher to showdown, we're not in love facing a check/raise on the flop, etc. I don't hate a bet.

By the turn I think we have to check a street; so if we didn't check the flop (fine) then I'm checking back the turn. AK got there. He may have already been there. We really don't like facing a check/raise (chasing a low IO 4-flush is meh, and being UI is meh facing a river bet). I just check back here and bluffcatch or perhaps value bet if checked to. Facing a check/raise here really sucks, especially since we should mostly be folding.

Turn play has really set us up for a gross spot. I would mostly fold on the river although obviously we don't feel great about it against this guy (who could easily have something like KhQx or maybe a broadway draw with a flush card).

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Honestly I don't hate folding to the turn x/r that much and wouldn't fault you for doing it.

I put him on some Kh combos before I bet the turn, it was my reasoning for the turn bet, not for calling a raise.

My reasoning above is I don't think he turns naked NFD into a bluff on the turn so I'm not worried about a river heart, I think we have the best hand a lot in that case. His only flopped NF combos are KhJh, KhTh. Compare that to the other flush combos, sets, two pair type hands and we have live outs with the heart.

so if V has a Set ; hearts give us the pot but V not likely to put any more $$$ in on river
most likely 2pr is A3 A4 so an A is no good to us
a 3 is no good and a 4 chops it if V has A3
king not good if V could have K
a blank like we got not good against 2pr or set
Like you said would V raise the K there?
if 4th comes and V leads into us We call and sometimes lose to K or K10 KJ

just seems like most +EV play there would be to fold turn after being raised

However
I would raise the turn with naked K there and follow thru with river bet if I thought my opponent could fold an AQ AJ hand and OP did state V saw him falter on what the table perceived to be an easy call previously .

I did end up folding river after some time. I asked him and he said that he had me so take that for what it is worth but he is not the guy who I think would lie there.

I guess I should be checking back the turn if I am not going to be happy about being raised. But like I said I also feel like we lose so much value when he has Ax or TT/JJ w/ a heart or something.

Interesting hand for me considering I thought my table image was tight and was perceived to be bluffed or "good enough" to fold big hands so I had that dynamic working against me

I personally like how you played it. I agree, he could be calling that turn with A and a card that's a heart, or JJh. Something like that. When he raises, that's pretty clear you're in trouble.

I can appreciate why mixing in a check on the turn could be useful, especially against a thinking player.

I would have played it like you and that was a really good, disciplined fold on the river. Nice job.

I dont agree with this, and have been working on getting this out of my game. i.e bet/folding more.

Sure, there are heaps of times we're not happy about being raised, but that doesnt mean we only bet when we're happy to be raised..

As some other posters have said turn seems like a bet every day of the week and we're missing value by not betting. As has been mentioned we're not getting C/R'd here much at all and missing a lot of value by worrying about the rare time we are.

The question is whether we're happy calling the turn - its a tough spot for sure. I could be swayed if i pick up a live tell but folding 60-70% and calling 30-40% i would guess

Seems like a clear fold.

V surely has the 2 and not A’s up or the flush. I may have 3b the turn, but never ever in a million years folding to the raise.

River is a shrug fold. AxJh or Ax10h could also take this line.

what does he put us on? You said you are super tight, so he knows your range. You need to be check calling on multiple streets. Too easy for him to x/r you when he knows your range and can put you on an ace. If you are trying to induce a x/r bluff that decision needs to be made before betting. If he is a bad player then you can go for value and not worry as much about being x/r, but even a bad player can go crazy with the K.

hero's in position, he can't x/c

I ran into villain today again and he claims to have had 67hh in the hand. Very weird line as I suspected he would have ck raised flop with a made flush that low

I actually don't think it's that weird of a line at all. Given the A is on the board, much of your range does not have you drawing to the nuts vs. him, i.e. you really only have K with either KQ or maybe KJ. Assuming villain knows that you play regularly, any raise here on the flop is going to scream a low flush and you're likely to throw away the vast majority of your Ax range. He also probably (rightly) assumes that if a 4th heart comes, he can turn his hand into a bluff vs. you given the lack of nut kings you have.

I probably would have x/r the flop as well on first instinct if I'm clicking buttons, but it's probably the right line for him to just call here and let you bet again on the turn for any non heart.

I don't think we're ~ever getting three streets of value here, so I would opt for flop and river. We don't have to protect our hand, and his NFD's are probably paying the river when they miss anyway. Same with his Ax. Seems like a clear check on the turn.

I like the turn bet for the reasons mdelore said, but I think we have to fold to the turn raise. I don’t think V has any 2s in his range by the river, and I don’t think he’d bet 2/3rds pot OTR with a 2 if he’s competent as you say... it’s pretty hard for him to be called by worse. But yeah, fold turn.