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10-20-2018 , 12:13 PM
1/3. Hero ($200) is probably the most aggressive player at this relatively passive table. Last hand hero played, hero raised/cbet and gave up on a four-to-a-straight board when V bet IP.

Hero is dealt AQo UTG, raise $17, only BTN (MAWG) calls. Pot $34.

Flop: 10-7-4r. Hero cbets $20. V calls. Pot $74.

Turn: K. Hero continues, $35. V calls. Pot $144.

River: 2. Hero?

Thanks,
DT
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10-20-2018 , 01:23 PM
Need information about villain.

In abstract you should have a few 3 triple barrels here but not many. Particularly once the king hits and villain calls turn you need to give up way then anything.

But really, this needs some reads on villain. If villain is a fit/fold station then even the turn bet could be bad. If villain chases a lot and then gives up river a 3rd bet might be fairly standard.
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10-20-2018 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Need information about villain.

In abstract you should have a few 3 triple barrels here but not many. Particularly once the king hits and villain calls turn you need to give up way then anything.

But really, this needs some reads on villain. If villain is a fit/fold station then even the turn bet could be bad. If villain chases a lot and then gives up river a 3rd bet might be fairly standard.
Not a whole lot other than in a previous hand he bet out a spade flush draw, got raised, called, and c/raised the turn when the flush hit (he showed the 9 of spades).
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10-20-2018 , 01:48 PM
bet larger on the turn if you want to generate any folds there $50-65. shove the river. if he calls you with a T take that as a note of what to do next time.

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10-20-2018 , 02:02 PM
You need to bet bigger on the turn. $35 is not going to accomplish anything.

You’re not deep enough to bet turn big and shove the river so I would give up on river and look for a read if he shoves.

Why do you only have $200? Can’t play poker with 67 BB’s.
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10-20-2018 , 02:30 PM
Knowing nothing about villain?

C-bet flop about 1/3 of the time. It's an innocuous flop and a c-bet should take it down enough.

Turn is a good card for you to represent so barrel about 1/3 of the time. I would suggest a bit more but your not deep enough to barrel much.

When villain calls the turn you have to favor thinking they are sticky. Almost always give up but maybe 1 time in 5 or so if you get the feeling they are weak or might have been chasing a draw go with $75.
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10-20-2018 , 05:44 PM
Hero checked river, V insta-fired $75.
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10-20-2018 , 06:15 PM
Need more of a read on villain and whether the turn brought a BDFD to determine whether to hero call here. He should certainly have some 98 as well as QJ that floated flop and picked up the higher OESD on the turn.
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10-20-2018 , 07:59 PM
Yeah, suits are important. You should know this, so this worries me. You should also be able to provide some more reads other than "MAWG".

I don't even know if I would ever bluff with only 66bb. I'd probably stick to value only. People just aren't afraid enough to call your bets if you're shortstacked, especially if you're aggressive. Part of your FE is their fear of having to call off big chunks of money on later streets, but your stack doesn't instill that fear and only makes people feel they're committed that much sooner.
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10-20-2018 , 08:25 PM
Bigger ott

River i would have insta shoved if we had <90% psb. Ap i still shove. His range is relatively capped and i dont see a lot of players stationing here with 10x or worse at a high frequency esp with FD missing. Plus we might lose here if we check and he bluffs us with 65s/98/QJ.

Ap can go either way, when he insta fires i feel a little inclined to call
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10-20-2018 , 11:58 PM
Considering that your stack is not 100BB, I would raise small pre, $17 for 1/3 seems pretty big to me. I prefer something like $10, even if I am playing with 100BB. Just gives you more options. C-bet and turn-bet seems fine on this board. I would prefer larger sizing on the turn.
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10-21-2018 , 12:22 AM
Edit: dont see them calling off a lot of worse hands with flush draw absent
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10-22-2018 , 11:50 AM
I honestly don't know what to do with AQo UTG any more. With just a $200 stack, if we're raising I'd probably go $20+ so I can stack off trivially postflop with TP.

I don't hate cbetting but I think it's also perfectly fine just to check/fold too.

If we're double barrelling this is a great card to do it as our AK just got there and we should start folding out the weaker pairs and often even TP.

By the river villain shouldn't have any pairs + draws, so this is likely either busted draws or often hands that ain't folding unless he got super sticky with a mediocre pair on the turn. I think I mostly check, especially if he's the type to just passively flip over his draw saying "I missed".

ETA: Unlike others, I think there is still a form of poker to be played 66bbs deep (and an ok winning one is possible) plus I'm cool with our sizing on the turn (people don't hurp durp off $200 stacks with middle / bottom pair on the turn, they're trying their best, and they're going to pride themselves on reading the board and knowing our AK/KQ just got there and they should now fold, although reads both ways are important here).

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