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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Being deeper like this, the trickier / more difficult the limpers are postflop (and looser they are to calling a big raise preflop), the more I might just see a flop; the more ABC / tighter they are, the more I'm raising preflop.
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Just to clarify, you're saying that sometimes (deeper stacked, trickier villains), you're just completing AQ in the sb? This hand ended up being a kind of terrible spot post due to stack sizes and being OOP, that's true, but there are other things I think we should consider when deciding how to act preflop.
1. There are 4-5 limpers, and most of them are kind of weak, one of them is solid, and only UTG (caller) is really a bit wild and aggressive (but not excessively so).
2. This hand ended up a bit badly, but even OOP with these stack sizes, most of the time villains are not actively exploiting this and putting me in difficult spots, and the hand plays out in one of the following ways...
a. I bet flop and V folds
b. I bet flop and V calls. I bet turn and V folds.
c. I bet flop and V calls. I bet turn and V calls. I check river, V checks back and I'm good.
d. I bet and V raises either flop or turn and I (most likely) fold.
e. The way the hand really went down, is actually a bit uncommon, it seems to me. And I still don't really think stack sizes are the biggest problem. It's simply hard to fold to this river bet, but also doesn't feel great to call and hope V is bluffing at least 25% of the time here.
I kind of liked the ideas of whoever suggested betting near pot on flop and 2/3 on turn, but this line DOES, actually, create serious commitment problems for me. Betting 1/2 pot flop and turn leaves me with room to fold to a PSB on the river (I don't think this is bad at all). But having only a 1/2 PSB left makes it very difficult. On the other hand, it will be difficult for V as well, so it could potentially be a way to get called by weaker aces, but doesn't leave me any room to figure out if I'm beat (before it's too late).